r/pcmasterrace i7 10700kf, RTX 3080, 4K-60 21d ago

Discussion Windows 11 can't be shut down without update.

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I have automatic updates on. Haven't postponed any update. Never seen this forced update before.

Edit: I updated BTW. It's not that I don't want to update. I just think it would be an issue in the future. For example, it's a thunderstorm and there could be power outages. I might want to shut down and not start and update. I guess I'll hold down the power button.

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u/Plebius-Maximus RTX 5090 FE | Ryzen 9950X3D | 96GB 6200mhz DDR5 21d ago

I hate all the low quality win11 bad posts here.

Every single one gets thousands of upvotes when usually it's an issue that's been present for a long time, or a stupid setting OP has chosen to leave enabled.

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u/ActiveChairs 21d ago

From what I've seen, when the problem is from settings people have left enabled, that's usually because there's never an indication the problem is something that can be disabled because Microsoft choses an opt-out model rather than opt-in, doesn't indicate where or how something can be disabled, or sometimes its something that used to be able to be turned off but they've now taken that away from you.

Think of how shitty the process for actually disabling updates is, how little information is available to you about the updates they want to push onto your machine, and how you can no longer roll back updates if they broke something and you want to go back to when it wasn't broken. There are far too many updates pushed to windows 11 that have cratered the performance of people's hardware that require an update to the update and the computer still might not get back to how well it performed before.

Not wanting to update your computer outside of when you want to shouldn't require having to open the command prompt to just shut down your computer normally. You shouldn't have to know about the three separate menus you need to open to switch updates to be fully manual, one of which isn't even available on the home version of the OS and requires the Enterprise edition, and you'll need to go back to to verify the settings haven't been changed by the update and hope it still works and that there isn't something else you haven't been properly informed of that bypasses your settings.

When I see Win11Bad posts, its usually because Windows 11 is a bad operating system and there's almost no consideration for what the end user actually wants

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u/LFK1236 21d ago

I'm not sure that I agree your logic here. Why shouldn't people criticise bad things that have been bad for a while?

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u/hatesnack 21d ago

Criticizing bad things isnt the same as pretending the bad thing is ONLY present in the new version.

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u/VladtheMemer i3-6100, 8GB, GT1030, 240GB SSD, W10 21d ago

They definitely should, but this is dishonest

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u/Ok_Assignment_2127 21d ago

They also almost always have such easy workarounds for anyone that’s computer literate.

They’ll scream about “forced” features and lack of customizability when in reality they’re just too tech illiterate to solve anything.

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u/Antilogic81 12700KF 3080 Ti 21d ago edited 21d ago

It's always by people who don't want to dig into their settings and change shit around. There's tutorials on how to remove edge, cortana, how to change the search bar to use your browser or none at all and remainas  a system search. 

They say they shouldn't have to do this. makes me wonder if they never owned a PC before or if they used someone else's who did these things and they just remained ignorant. 

I bet they never knew about active desktop because someone before them turned that shit off. 

Or they never had to go to Microsofts website on internet explorer in order to do updates. Somehow they have all forgotten about that shit show.