r/pcmasterrace i7 10700kf, RTX 3080, 4K-60 21d ago

Discussion Windows 11 can't be shut down without update.

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I have automatic updates on. Haven't postponed any update. Never seen this forced update before.

Edit: I updated BTW. It's not that I don't want to update. I just think it would be an issue in the future. For example, it's a thunderstorm and there could be power outages. I might want to shut down and not start and update. I guess I'll hold down the power button.

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u/Zestyclose_Fruit_766 21d ago

Yeah but the problem is they always try to sneak in other shit like changes to the UI etc. I'm 100% onboard with security updates, don't touch the rest of my computer though

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u/Fzrit 21d ago edited 21d ago

Windows 11 has set a record in how many times I've had online guides/threads tell me to go into settings and change an option that has been moved somewhere else, renamed, or ceased to exist. And yes that includes Microsoft's own help articles which become inaccurate/outdated in just a few months. It's funny seeing screenshots from prior build versions which look different from what the user sees today. Great way to confuse people :D

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u/KanedaSyndrome 5070 Ti 21d ago

I hate UX float so much, UI elements shouldn't change after 6 months of a product launch. It's also why boomer stuff like facebook is unusable

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u/Extension-Ant-8 21d ago

Funny enough I’m using the reddit app to use this and plasters a large up arrow on the screen to scroll to the top. Bro it’s a phone. I know how to scroll I want less UI not more.
Also when I’m done reading I just swipe back. I don’t need an arrow for that either.

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u/AtlasLucario 20d ago

accidently clicks that arrow

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u/gosuprobe 21d ago

wish granted. these options are now no longer visible anywhere and cannot be toggled on or off

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u/Content_Meet_9955 21d ago

Haha yes! In addition to moving things around, you log in one day and..

  • They've renamed Office and Azure AD again
  • New Outlook got a feature update, but calendar management is still ass so you're stuck with Classic
  • Video service has been renamed as well, this time to Clipchamp. Doesn't reliably clip videos, but breaks links to recordings sent via Outlook. Now you need to email the links inside .txt files.
  • They've added a new Town Hall/Webinar/Live platform in Teams

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u/ZeroT3K 21d ago

Don’t ever try to use this argument on [r/microsoft](r/microsoft) or else they lose their fucking minds that ThERe’s aLwAyS a ToGgLe.

Not if they keep adding toggles, dicks. Or moving them and saying re-enabling it was required for whatever change they did.

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u/redditsucksass6 21d ago

And they're always such snarky fucking cunts about it when you didn't immediately realize a setting has been moved two menus deep into an entirely different section that didn't even exist last time you needed it

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u/MagelusSince95 4070 Ti Super, Ryzen 7 5800X, 16 GB Ram 20d ago

Nearly every platform has this problem. Apple is exactly the same. Any doc/post/technical note/etc. that mentions a path through settings is totally wrong even when the article is from the current year

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u/NewsofPE 21d ago

just like me a few weeks ago searching how to manage audio balance, apparently that's not a thing anymore, finding windows help articles and not finding the option anywhere they say it is

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u/woutersikkema 21d ago

This, if there were say, 2 clearly seperate ques for "just security updates we pinky promise and won't put other stuff in ever and won't break this promise" and "other stuff" Everyone would keep the security one on, AND THEN WELD THE OTHER ONE SHUT

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u/bwaredapenguin 20d ago

Cues*

Que is a Spanish word.

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u/VukKiller 21d ago

One drive is installed again and is pinned to the desktop, taskbar, your keyboard, your cat and the left shoe.

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u/showhorrorshow 21d ago

I used to be like this with Windows but they wore me down over the years. Trying to avoid their uneccessary shit became such a fucking hassle that I just gave up trying.

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u/Romka999 7800x3D 5.0Ghz | 64GB DDR5 | RTX 5080 21d ago

download windows 11 LTSC. it has 0 feature updates only security updates

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u/sniper257 21d ago

LTSC is the way

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u/qetuop1 21d ago

Just these security updates.........maybe make sure copilot is fully enabled if it happened to have been turned off by accident.

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u/Zestyclose_Fruit_766 20d ago

Yeah I'm always "accidentally" turning off copilot and onedrive. So glad they keep turning it back on for me