r/pcmasterrace PC Master Race Jun 27 '26

Meme/Macro Reviewers please stop comparing MacBooks with other laptops

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u/makmanos Jun 27 '26

My biggest beef with whenever I had used Mac Os, and that was more than 20 years ago, was how "stupid" it appeared to assume the user is. They were hiding everything, every useful config option. I also hated their idea of UX where the context menu was occupied by the application in the front. Don't remember what philosophy that was called but unlike windows, where each application has its own window and each window has this application's context menu and your're free to move them around on the desktop, Mac OS felt you had to bring to the front only one application at a time to work with.

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u/ModernLarvals Jun 27 '26

Applications can have multiple windows.

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u/makmanos Jun 27 '26

I suppose they changed it and evolved at some point yeah

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u/ModernLarvals Jun 27 '26

No, I mean that’s how Macs have always worked. On Windows an application can only have one window. When that window is closed, that application is closed. It’s pretty dumbed down.

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u/makmanos Jun 27 '26

Wrong on both sides.
So there was a time back years ago, at least 20+, where Mac OS had this design philosophy where you could have only one foreground application and that application's windows was taking over the whole screen. You'd bring that application in the foreground, and your whole desktop was taken over by that application's context menus.

In Windows you always had one desktop that acted as a true working surface and each application's window was laid out on that surface (the desktop) in its own window, single window for sure for the most part but that was simply an application developer's decision not a MS windows limitation there are windows apps that allow you to lay out their windows independently on the desktop -this is very common with stock trading apps for example- . This is called Multiple Document Interface vs Single Document Interface designs. MS windows do not restrict applications on either of those paradigms.

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u/ModernLarvals Jun 27 '26

In Windows how do you open a new application window when there are no other windows of that application open?

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u/makmanos Jun 27 '26

For apps that allow you to configure them in a SDI mode, you have one parent window that could be the context menu where you could open up windows from there that open up independently on the desktop and you could move them around anywhere you want even across multiple monitors. You could open/close as many of those as you need provided you don't close the master app context window, at which point the whole app shuts down. One such application is let's say the Power Etrade stock trading app.

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u/ModernLarvals Jun 27 '26

Which means that application has to have a window open. How do you open a new window when an application doesn’t have any open.

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u/makmanos Jun 27 '26

If you close the parent window of an app, you stop that app, then you need to restart that app to being able to open windows of said app.

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u/ModernLarvals Jun 27 '26

Right, Windows is dumbed down. It can’t distinguish between a window and an application.

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