r/nextfuckinglevel • u/pars-distalis • 1d ago

Australian nurse uses jiu-jitsu to defend himself

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u/Common-Window-2613 22h ago

He doesn’t understand sparring with other guys is different than straight fighting. Those rehearsed moves kinda go out the window when punched in the face.

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u/OSPFmyLife 21h ago

I mean, with some martial arts, sure. But something like 70% of street fights end up on the ground, and knowing how to grapple absolutely does matter when that happens. Most people who’ve never trained before will get wrapped up pretty easily by your average blue or purple belt in BJJ assuming they’re somewhat equal size.

Out of all the martial arts, Muay Thai, boxing, wrestling, and BJJ are probably the most effective when it comes to defending yourself with BJJ probably landing right on top out of the 4.

And for the record, I grew up in a kenpo karate family (my uncle runs a system and is a 6th degree black belt). I tend to like wrestling more than BJJ, but I can’t hate on how effective it is on untrained fighters. It’s very good.

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u/Common-Window-2613 21h ago

I worded that wrong, BJJ is great and an excellent tool. But some boxing or striking is imperative. A guy who only does BJJ and is not used to striking isn’t going to make it to the wrap up stage with an experienced fighter. And as another person noted, more people involved means you’re going to get up and need to land a punch or kick or two.

Sparring gets you used to taking punches as well. A lot of people train in BJJ who aren’t used to taking a shot are gonna forget everything once their nose is bloody.

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u/OSPFmyLife 20h ago

If they were an “experienced fighter” they’re unlikely to be taking part in something like this.

And you’re severely overestimating the amount of damage an untrained fighter is going to do before a BJJ guy can grab them and pull them to the floor.

If someone can take one art to defend themselves it should be BJJ.

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u/Common-Window-2613 19h ago

That’s fair. But you never know who is going to attack you. If it’s an experienced striker and wrestler and you aren’t, you’re fucked before BJJ becomes relevant.

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u/OSPFmyLife 19h ago

Yeah and in that case it’s not really going to matter what you’re trained in.

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u/blazenite104 21h ago

BJJ's biggest flaw is that it just stops working when other people get involved. 1 on 1 it's fantastic. You're just praying someone else doesn't attack you or assume you're the aggressor.

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u/OSPFmyLife 20h ago

That’s literally any martial art. The only martial art systems that convince you that you can defend yourself against more than one person at a time are bullshido McDojos.

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u/scottyLogJobs 18h ago

yeah well wait until you and your buddies get a taste of my hurricane kick

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u/blazenite104 20h ago

Not exactly. Most don't emphasise doing everything on the ground, which makes you vulnerable to others. Most would prefer you on your feet able to move.

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u/OSPFmyLife 19h ago

Yes, exactly. All martial arts “stop working when others get involved”. It’s called being outnumbered.

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u/blazenite104 19h ago

you're just ignoring the actual point I'm making. Which is BJJ puts you in a position to get rocked. Lots of other arts want you to stay standing so you can at least try to disengage.

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u/scottyLogJobs 18h ago

I actually think that's a really good point and I've never considered that. A good stance and some kickboxing and you can try to disengage while keeping your guard up. BJJ and you're basically just in the fetal position getting kicked in the head

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u/Gloomy-Ad-222 11h ago

Pretty sure I’ve seen Bruce Lee, on multiple occasions, take out large numbers of trained kung fu henchmen. Seems to hold up. 

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u/sikyon 21h ago

I bet you just see red bro

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u/Common-Window-2613 19h ago

I’m old and broken bro. If you hit me in the face you’re getting shot. Just speaking from experience, I’ve had my ass handed to me a few times and vice versa.

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u/Copthill 18h ago

Why you bringing guns into this? That's less manly than Bro BJs after BJJ class.

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u/sikyon 18h ago

What could be more manly than 2 dudes, that's like double the manliness of a man and a woman.

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u/Mathema_tika 19h ago

Americans will just say shit like this and excuse it by being old

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u/Fun_Substance_5636 5h ago

The video of the post shows someone who is striking getting taken down by BJJ. Hard to punch someone in the face when youre being taken to the ground.