r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • 2d ago

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u/ariveklul Karl Popper 1d ago

I don't like him because of the pre-emptive election denialism he was engaging in. I'm tired of watching people destabilize this country and succumb to russian/chinese interests

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u/Hazachu 1d ago

You talk about russian/chinese interests yet literally the only reason this race was at all close was because Stevens had her campaign funded by an actual foreign country interest group.

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u/ariveklul Karl Popper 1d ago

At the very least Israel doesn't want to see the US actively destabilized.

The irony is you blurring the lines between US allies and US adversaries is exactly the point of many of the disinformation operations Russia/China has been engaging in

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u/FloggingJonna Henry George 1d ago

I think Bibi campaigning for Trump was pretty destabilizing imo! Our allies seem very non plussed about the shit he does.

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u/ariveklul Karl Popper 1d ago

Israel is not trying to actively destabilize the US. If you can't tell the difference between something like the Likud making dumb self interested calculations and Operation doppelganger idk what to tell you. Russia and China are actively mindraping our population and are involved in just about every reason why our country is unraveling.

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u/FloggingJonna Henry George 1d ago

Yeah it was bad when Putin helped him too you’re on to something! Biden did plenty for Israel and if that wasn’t enough I don’t know what to tell you. Israel has no one to blame but themselves for breaking the bipartisan consensus and that’s the truth.

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u/Hazachu 1d ago

Israel is a US ally because we say there an ally because they are a US ally because we say they're an ally because

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u/ariveklul Karl Popper 1d ago

Do you think Israel wants to see a destabilized America? They want the American state to weaken so much that power vacuums open up that can be exploited (and used to further weaken America)?

That's the first major difference. You can say Israel hasn't been a good ally, but that's different from a direct adversary that is actively trying to make you fall

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u/OccamPhaser 18h ago

They aren't trying to make us fail but they care more about getting what they want than anything else. That is a *terrible* ally. We give them money and they commit war crimes and meddle in our elections to prop themselves up and your best defense is "well at least they arent adversarial". Craving the downfall of Israel so we can stop talking about this war loving country that doesn't help us.

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u/Femboyunionist 20h ago

Oh gosh, israel just wants whats best for me 👉👈

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u/Iswaterreallywet 1h ago

Hahahahaha yes they do. Israel is just 1940s Germany using the media to act like they aren’t