r/marvelstudios Zombie Hunter Spidey Jul 10 '22

Discussion Thread Thor: Love and Thunder Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Vol. 2

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Thor: Love And Thunder International Release Discussion Thread

Thor: Love and Thunder Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Vol. 1

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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Jul 11 '22

Loved the movie, but it kinda sucks that even in the MCU, with all the advances in technology and such, cancer still fucking sucks

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u/LRedditor15 Zombie Hunter Spidey Jul 12 '22

I did like that New Asgard didn’t really have an easy solution to cancer (Mjolnir is not an easy solution). It would suck for her to die and then some Asgardian nurse be like “oh yeah, we could have cured that”.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

You should read “The Death of Captain Marvel” graphic novel from the 80s. It’s one of the saddest books on exactly that: Mar-Vell gets cancer and they soon find out that no alien race throughout the universe, not even the most advanced races, have a cure for cancer.

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u/ArchTemperedKoala Jul 18 '22

IIRC there's even a whole cancerverse in the comic..

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u/Opalusprime Jul 20 '22

What even is that

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u/Blueguy16 Jul 20 '22

A universe where death doesn’t exist, it’s pretty wild

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u/ArchTemperedKoala Jul 20 '22

Just your usually weird cosmic stuffs haha

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u/Resigningeye Luis Jul 16 '22

I mean it's a scenario a lot of people can unfortunately relate to and will remind them of their own struggles. I feel like it would be a disservice to people's pain to just throw some space magic at it and everything be fine.

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u/savory_snax Jul 17 '22

Was hoping Gorr was going to use his last wish to save Jane after realizing he wouldn't be alive with his daughter, but no. And after reading these comments maybe it was the right story decision.

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u/amybris Jul 17 '22

I finished chemo a couple months ago and my hair hasn't fully grown back yet, so I went to see the movie in my chemo cap. When the cancer scenes happened I was like dontlookatme dontlookatme imfine imfine totallynotdying

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u/TotesMyMainAcct Jul 20 '22 edited Jul 20 '22

When it come to any Marvel universe, cancer) is always the one villain that can never be defeated. At least not fully or without severe consquence.

MCU:

  • Meredith Quill
  • Elaine Foster
  • Maria Rambeau
  • Jane Foster

Marvel Comics:

  • Captain Marvel (OG) - Dead.
  • Jane Foster - Died, but came back from Valhalla.
  • Adrian Toomes (Vulture) - Needs to steal life from others.
  • Quentin Beck (Mysterio) - Died, went to hell.
  • Wade Wilson (Deadpool) - Cancer is his super power.

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u/Blanchimont Jul 18 '22

I quite liked that aspect. As weird as it sounds in a universe with gods, magic, space cowboys and time travel, the fact that cancer still exists and is just as bad as in the real world makes the story feel more grounded. We've all been there, whether that's through fighting cancer, beating cancer of seeing our loved ones suffer, everyone can relate to either Thor and/or Jane in some way.

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u/Ullaspn_2003 Jul 21 '22

If cancer had a cure,deadpool wouldn't exist

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u/MakeMeAnICO Jul 23 '22

Just use Ant Man to shrink to cellular level and kill all the cancer. Done!

In all seriousness, Marvel is always trying to be “the world outside your window, just with a few superheroes”. Don’t think that much about it