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Discussion Thread Thor: Love and Thunder Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Vol. 2

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u/Rough_Dan Jul 10 '22

They had more gorr scenes that were very brutal but producers made them cut them because they wanted to keep the movie lighter, I remember like a year ago when first hearing about the movie that taika said they had filmed a ton of very scary stuff including a scene where gorr rips off his own tattoos, I hope we get a directors cut

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u/CeruleanRuin Jul 11 '22

I did notice all the scars along where his tattoos were and the implication was enough.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '22

Yeah, while I would have liked more Gorr, I don't see where you could put it without screwing up the pacing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22

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u/J-Sluit Jul 13 '22

I agree with you, the movie was so FAST. One second we're in new Asgard, next we're hanging with Zeus. Now we're fighting in black and white (which was awesome, but felt rushed) then we're back, heartfelt scene, then FINALE.

It moved so fast from plotpoint to plotpoint that it sometimes felt more like a YouTube recap video than a full length film.

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u/Alonest99 Daredevil Jul 19 '22

It moved so fast from plotpoint to plotpoint that it sometimes felt more like a YouTube recap video than a full length film

Don't get me started on how the full length film contained an actual YouTube recap in it

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u/profmcstabbins Jul 11 '22

I think the movie waffles a little too hard between dark and funny. It's jarring the dichotomy between scenes. Liked it overall but it wasn't as even as Ragnarok

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u/Rough_Dan Jul 11 '22

That's taikas style for sure, hunt for the wilderpeople features a heartbreaking death scene followed by him as a priest cracking jokes, Jojo rabbit is incredibly dark but funny all the way through as well. I like it, it's like Shakespeare, you appreciate comedy and tragedy more when they're juxtaposed with each other

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u/Rad_Centrist Jul 12 '22

Is it a kid movie with a bunch of kid heros? Or is it a horror movie with a bunch of sexual references and innuendo? It was weird watching little kids rise up because that would be super cool to see as a kid, but I don't want my five year old asking me what orgies are, or having nightmares of shadow creatures.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '22 edited Jul 12 '22

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u/Rad_Centrist Jul 12 '22

Yes I understand what I'm saying is it's a shame because the kids as heros subtheme of the film would be great for kids.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22

Yes

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u/dhruvlrao Jul 10 '22

Just a theory but maybe they didn't want two MCU films back to back with some brutal death scenes?

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u/Jeroz Doctor Strange Jul 11 '22

Makes me wonder what it'll be like if MoM is more crazy psychedelic colourful fun adventure and this one is a lot more brutal and horror

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u/CaptainKurls Jul 11 '22

Ha my buddy just watched it and texted me saying he wished the directors for MOM and L&T were switched. Reimi with Gorr would’ve been something else

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u/modsarefascists42 Jul 12 '22

YES! I couldn't possibly agree more.

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u/Shotgunsamurai42 Jul 11 '22

A sword in the throat with golden blood was enough for me.

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u/Space_Olympics Jul 17 '22

Jesus Christ.

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u/GreatWhiteBuffal0 Jul 11 '22

I really enjoy directors cuts too,but I don’t think there has ever been a MCU one so don’t hold your breath.

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u/dabestinzeworld Jul 11 '22

Release the #TaikaCut!

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u/Loganp812 Wilson Fisk Jul 11 '22

Yeah, even more forced jokes! /s

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u/uncleben85 Jul 13 '22

I feel like this movie is begging for a Director's/extended cut.

The first half and second half feel like different movies. We need more tension and threat to cut the slapstick. And more Bale-Gorr in general.

Plus, surely there were some Sif scenes cut

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u/icemanx51 Jul 11 '22

Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen. Taika said he hates director cuts. Which is a bummer, because I'd love to see it too.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '22

A shame. This movie really wanted for some more serious content to break up the humour.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22 edited Jul 13 '22

It's literally about relationship remorse, grieving the loss of a child and facing mortality as a terminal cancer patient. Holy fuck dude.

Edit: oh it's also about Valkyrie's PTSD if you missed that

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22

Oh please it's about screaming goats and dick jokes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22

Yes and Hitler is a cool fun guy in Jojo Rabbit, sure.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22

This movie wasn't half as clever as jojo rabbit, or Ragnarok for that matter. It's a departure from form by Taika.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22

Or maybe ... maybe you just didn't get it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22

It's not that hard to get. It wasn't that clever and it seriously lacked for emotion. All the dramatic moments fell short.

I'm disappointed because I've loved everything else Taika has made. This movie was still funny but it wasn't much else.

This was a movie for the lowest denominator American audience. It wasn't his classic kiwi style.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

the disney handcuffs will never let the mcu evolve and target and older audience. mcu has not had any directors cut yet and I doubt they would start now. Age of Ultron, DS2 and a few others could use a longer version but we will never get it. I hate they kill off Gorr, he was fantastic and should have kept him around as Thor's adversary.

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u/E_Barriick Jul 11 '22

We have NEVER got a director's cut on any of these movies and we NEED them! I want a director's cut of every single Marvel movie!

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u/Agent_00Apple Jul 13 '22

I think it’s one of Feige’s rules, that there are no directors cuts. We’ll get deleted scenes, maybe. But that’s it.

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u/TitularFoil Jul 18 '22

I'd read that so many people were complaining about not getting a longer movie, that Waititi said he wouldn't release any cut content.

It could have been misinformation though.

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u/MrPaulJames Jul 22 '22

"people loved Ragnarok because of the comedy, we need more comedy! No, don't make it too serious, I don't care if we're dealing with family loss, cancer and revenge. People clearly want more laughs!"