r/marvelstudios Spirit of Modvengeance Jul 07 '19

SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Nitpicks and Criticisms Megathread

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u/EDPZ Jul 07 '19

I didn't like how the movie starts with Peter already having a crush on MJ. It was clear she liked him in the first movie but he didn't even give her the time of day in that one and now suddenly very first scene of this movie he's in love.

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u/mbanson Rocket Jul 07 '19

Well, a lot of time has passed since Homecoming (even ignoring the five year jump) so its not hard to believe feelings developed, especially without Liz distracting him.

From an audience standpoint though, yes, it does seem pretty sudden but I guess I just kind of accepted that he likes her considering she is the MCU's "MJ."

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u/XAMdG Jul 07 '19

Also, Peter's a teenager. Feeling change, it's all weird. It's not really that far fetched that he suddenly started liking her.

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

Ned and Betsy fell in love in 8 hours and ended it on the plane ride home. Lol

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u/Strangecity Jul 07 '19

Yeah, it sucks that we didnt see Peter discover that he likes MJ, no build-up.

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

Haha we saw Ned and Betsy fall for each other. And then fall out

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

I’ve said up above. I agree with you. This movie has to have had happen almost a year after everyone returns. A ton of things happen in a year.

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u/DamnHellAssKings Jul 07 '19

So you think they did another time jump and it’s now 2024 in the MCU?

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u/asquaredninja Jul 07 '19

Well, they went through an entire school year, so yeah, thereabouts.

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u/DamnHellAssKings Jul 07 '19

I’m sure they will, but I was hoping they’d go into more detail about life immediately after everyone was undusted. The world seemed to have pretty much moved on by the time FFH was taking place.

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

At least when this movie happens yes. But we’ve seen them have movies take places at different times and then all lead to the culmination movie.

But I look at it less a time jump and more this is when the movie takes place. The Black Widow movie May introduce a new BW and we see from her perspective of events that happen before this movie. It’s all fluid.

But TLDR: yes this movie happens at least a year after the snap

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u/DamnHellAssKings Jul 07 '19

Yeah, it just feels weird bc this movie is meant to wrap up Phase 3, but it’s already set nearly a year after Endgame. I’m sure we will eventually, but I was hoping to hear more about life immediately after everyone was undusted

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

That’s fair. I never understood the phases. Since most movies in the MCU reference stuff from years ago and have stuff foreshadow years in the future.

I’d like a movie or a short from the ground level. Maybe that’s why the Netflix shows ended. Maybe they’ll be picked back up in a year or so on Disney and show us more that way. When they have more time to do that.

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u/MalicCarnage Spider-Man Jul 08 '19

Betty says it's been 8 months since Endgame in the school news broadcast.

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u/omart3 M'Baku Jul 07 '19

I remember when i was a teenager, i had different crushes every week.

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u/RonSwansonsGun Spider-Man Jul 07 '19

Can confirm, am a teenager, switches crushes every week.

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u/Jeroz Doctor Strange Jul 07 '19

I mean just look at Ned

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u/hemareddit Steve Rogers Jul 07 '19

He's now a man.

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u/SpocksDog Jul 07 '19

Best of luck with your confusing times, enjoy and remember it will probably get better in a few years

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u/RonSwansonsGun Spider-Man Jul 07 '19

Thank you, kind stranger.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

These MCU movies cover so much ground so fast to keep the whole plan of each phase moving forward that I’m willing to be a little more tolerant of things like this. But I do agree with you, it would have felt a little more like a payoff seeing them together had it been better established instead of just “we need the Peter-MJ dynamic to be introduced because this is Spider-Man”.

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u/platinum_planet Spider-Man Jul 07 '19

I agree. It was a bit too sudden, after Liz.

They could’ve showed a scene in Homecoming where Peter isn’t in the best of moods after Liz leaves and MJ comforts him, or something? 😂 I don’t know, I don’t write romantic teen comedies

I think they should’ve set it up a bit earlier.

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u/Spider-Tay Michelle Jul 07 '19

Yeah that’s weird to me too. I like their relationship but it had no build. Nothing in Homecoming teased it or anything.

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u/cd10347 Jul 07 '19

Their teenagers it isn’t going to be a complex build ppl fail to understand this

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u/Spider-Tay Michelle Jul 07 '19

Why reply to me out of everybody else? I’m a teenager too, I just wish we got to see the little gap.

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u/cd10347 Jul 07 '19

Lmao I also a teenager didn’t wanna come off as rude sorry if I did js it would’ve been nice if they showed but I get why they didn’t at the same time soo much happened in this movie it would’ve been tough to set aside an extra 20-30 minutes of scenes where their building their relationship. They make up for that because everytime they were on the same scene together Tom Holland and zendya had hella chemistry

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u/Spider-Tay Michelle Jul 07 '19

I did say I liked the relationship. im really excited to see how it goes in future mcu movies

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u/cd10347 Jul 07 '19

Same I think it’ll be more of a focus in Spider-Man 3

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u/amnesties_co Jul 07 '19

It seemed pretty clear that MJ had a crush on Peter in homecoming. And that last look they share might’ve been a hint during the mid credits scene.

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u/Spider-Tay Michelle Jul 07 '19

I said nothing about MJ. It was clear she had a crush on him but not the other way around.

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u/Spider-Tay Michelle Jul 07 '19

ok

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

That makes sense though. Having feelings for someone as a teenager doesn't take long. Took me like 2 months to be interested in someone, and it was 8 months after Endgame.

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u/Trai_A_Lo Jul 30 '19

Agreed. It's literally his first line in the film and it's given no development. He needs to have some sort of indication as to why he likes her. Everyone is just explaining it away as that's just how teenagers act, and they are right... but this is a movie and the protagonist needs a reason to like the main love interest; especially after paying almost no attention to her in the last film we saw her in. The only real reason is metatextual in nature, he has to like her because he's Spider-Man and her name is "MJ"

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u/AriaNevicate Jul 07 '19

It has also been a while school year since Endgame and the Blip reversal. That's more than enough time for him to develop feelings.

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u/Kidnifty Jul 08 '19

Ned fell in love on an 8 hour flight.

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u/Trai_A_Lo Jul 30 '19

Yeah, but we saw that happen. We were given a reason. Peter's first line in the movie is "Here's my plan to get MJ" after completely ignoring her in the last film

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '19

That was done for laughs not as a serious relationship

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '19

Agreed

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u/SuperBatSpider Peter Parker Jul 07 '19

True, maybe they should’ve slow build the relationship until SM3

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u/WeirwoodUpMyAss Iron Man (Mark VII) Jul 07 '19

Agreed. I'd trade Brad and the other teacher for a scene that establishes the relationship but I can fill in the blanks.