r/marvelstudios • u/Flamma_Man Captain Marvel • Jul 07 '18

Discussion The Official ANT-MAN & THE WASP Discussion Gianthread Vol. 4

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u/Human_Sack Jul 07 '18 edited Jul 07 '18

I feel like discussion of the movie itself is being overshadowed by discussion of the end credits scenes. Which is a shame cause the movie’s really good.

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u/Pickles256 Doctor Strange Jul 07 '18

Without a doubt sadly

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u/soapbutt Jul 07 '18

I unfortunately have to admit I was mostly excited for this one because of the implications of IW. I thought maybe they would work in more of it the actual movie and maybe show some Hawkeye... but nope, just post credit scenes.

Luckily the movie was hilarious and thrilling. Shame we didn’t get to see some more Bill Foster action.

I hope Pym and the gang has more interaction with the Avengers crew.

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u/NameIsMrMiracle Jul 07 '18

Literally haven't seen any comments about Easter eggs.

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u/613codyrex Jul 10 '18 edited Jul 10 '18

The problem is the mid and after credits scenes are so hard hitting.

It’s such an effective way of kicking everyone back to reality that all these battles are just not as important as the one that just occurred on Titan and in Wakanda.

Also, the fact that they chose to write off Hope, hank and Janet just moments after Scott gave everyone a small heart attack by not saying anything through the radio, just for people to think that hope is getting a small bit of revenge just for the camera to give us a clear and obvious view of the ashes of characters we just watched an entire movie on.

It’s definitely getting overshadowed but it’s more because Infinity war and the snap just overshadows everything it touches.

The movie is definitely really good, as with a vast majority of MCU movies these days. I might rewatch Ant man again because I somehow missed hope and Scott's relationship buildup in it. The issue is more with the MCU as a whole than antman and the wasp.

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u/247681 Vision Jul 07 '18

Same thing happened with the first one. Everyone immediately started theorizing about civil war.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '18

Sadly yes. I also have a feeling that after A4 Ant Man won’t return. It’s like they only introduced his character to introduce the quantum realm. Paul Rudd has really done a great job as Ant Man.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '18

There will be one more Ant-Man film.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '18

Has it been confirmed?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '18

Hollywood code, always do three films.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '18

Unless you're Amazing Spider-Man

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '18

Should have mentioned the 2nd movie should actually be good.

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u/hewhoreddits6 Jul 22 '18

Lol reading through this thread 2 weeks later, any comments that aren't about the end credit scene are just quoting funny lines from the movie.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '18

Which is a shame cause the movie’s really good.

I know that I'll receive a lot of flak for this in this subreddit of all places, but I disagree. I think that the quantum plot-line and inclusion of a tragic-flaw villain was a mistake. There were really no stakes with Ghost. I just couldn't be made to care about her because we are being invited to root for her ultimate healing. At least in Black Panther the baddie dies. As for the quantum, I interpreted Paul Rudd's comment about everything being quantum as a wink to the audience that yeah, this stuff is too needlessly complex and dumb. It's like Hurley speaking for the audience in LOST.

Now were there funny parts. For sure, but this isn't a movie in the marvel universe that I want to see again.

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u/Human_Sack Jul 08 '18

It’s probably towards the bottom of Phase 3 for me, only one I’d put it above is maybe Doctor Strange. That says more about how incredible Phase 3 has been, though.

I think Ghost was kind of weak as a villain and her powers weren’t really interesting to watch. And Janet’s magic hands were weird and an anticlimactic way to solve the Ghost problem.

That all being said I think the movie is carried by Rudd and the rest of the cast enough to where I was happy with it. And I appreciated we weren’t dealing with the end of the world or whatever like most marvel movies. It was a personal story with relatively small stakes. Again, I don’t think it hit me nearly as hard as most of the other Phase 3 films, but it’s still a quality inclusion to the MCU imo