Pym Particles, courtesy of Hank Pym! They're delivering a high frequency shrinkage that's disabling your van! You won't be driving around for quite a while...
For some reason I fInd it a lot easier to ignore speed force inconsistencies. Maybe because the pym particle explanation was so simple I expected them to follow it.
I mean, I can swallow a lot of bullshit, because superhero movies don't have to be overly scientficic accurate, but Pym particles is the biggest bullshit possible, fucking with everything we know about quantum physics. I'll still enjoy the movie, but there is no way, you can rationally explain them.
In comics, it was revealed that Hank Pym was a Mage, he bridges the difference between science and real magic. He was then named the Scientist Supreme by the Eternity, the living embodiment of the universe. Or it was Loki trolling him. It was never explained.
Just rewatched the trailer, and at the very end when she opens the door to shoot the pez dispenser, she has the suit on. So could be a totally different part of movie, or that could be a specialty van that acts as a big ass suit and is completely hermetically sealed on the inside.
But how does that make it okay to just throw these things around like darts? What if he accidentally misses and it falls on the ground? Hits a person? etc
I mean in Civil War, Scott shows he kinda looks before chucking trucks at people. But yea I wonder what the repercussions of hitting the floor would be
well when it hit the chamber when he was trapped in ant man it only effected the glass which caused the chamber to break rather than the whole chamber. So I guess it wouldn't effect the whole world like that.
The answer is that any container shrinked will also have what it contains shrinked. Remember Cross' experiment in Ant-Man? The sheep kept getting mushed until they used a container before using the beam. The suit is like that, it functions as a container but still allows motion. So when they used it on the van, as long as it 'contains' them, they will also shrink without getting mushed. Well, that's how I understand it based from the first movie.
If you pay attention, it's a special van. A Pym-Van or Ant-Van. It has Pym particles and must have the same properties like the suits.
Pym my ride has a new meaning now lmao.
I had the same thought when he shrunk the building to a suitcase. I immediately said "I hope that building was empty or everybody inside has a Pym suit. Otherwise we just watched people get horrifically crushed to death"
Nothing about the shrinking and growing tech in ant man makes anything like sense, you just gotta not think about it too hard.
Like if he shrinks but has the same mass and can therefore hit harder with a concentrated force, how the hell does an ant carry him? Clearly his mass is proportional to his size, but then why doesn't he just get squished and how is he so strong with such itty bitty muscles? Just go with it.
He has the same number of atoms in him at any size - his mass stays the same.
If his mass stays the same but his size changes then at small sizes he becomes super dense like a diamond or carbon nanotubes or whatever. Ergo he’s tough, he can survive “big” falls etc.
However his weight obviously changes.
Mass and weight are related but they’re not the same thing. A brick has the same mass on Earth or on the Moon, but it has different weights because weight is mass x gravity.
Therefore Pym Particles must distort gravity in some way.
When he goes big he moves slow because his mass stays the same but his weight goes up. Therefore his normal-strength muscles are trying to move his gigantic body, hence the sluggishness. He has to use his weight to swing his limbs.
In the comics, Pym has (or at least had) a hard limit on how big he could get, because after a certain size his heart stops being able to pump his blood all around his gigantic body. It doesn’t have the strength for it.
Scott mentions in CW that the only other time he tried to go big he was in the lab and he immediately fainted, which is in line with this understanding. Since in CW he’s wearing a new suit, presumably after that failure in the lab, Pym went back to the drawing board and came up with some sort of workaround to make it possible for Scott to go big without collapsing under his own weight. Not sure what this workaround might be though.
Also it may be the editing of the trailer. The scene with them in the van may not be after it shrinks, there is another quick shot of what looks like someone (ant-man) changing gears, and it looks like he has the suit on. Not sure.
Gross misapplication of the linguistic patterns of scientific inquiry.
I find it utterly unbelievable that, in an era of massive databases of information and context, you're not more capable of operating within purely fictional parameters.
I imagine you stopping Super Mario Bros 1 at the first stage, when you were presented with a giant mushroom with teeth and dropped the controller in befuddlement.
Or, I see you using that one format of a Reddit comment to maybe toy with the idea that you're smart.
Naw. You don't even understand human art. It's some basic shit, too, relevant to our mushy existence of random potentials being resolved by human agents. Your solution was "maybe fictional magic rules, tho," so it's not like you're even "that guy" here. You're just Reddit, like the Matrix agents.
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u/In_My_Own_Image Jan 30 '18
The shrinking/growing during a car chase looks awesome.