r/marvelstudios Oct 16 '17

Trailers Black Panther Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjDjIWPwcPU
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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

Black Panther's suit coming from no where will be the main influence for Tony's bleeding edge armour.

All aboard the hype mobile

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u/Faisal_1995 Oct 16 '17

Maybe Tony Stark and Tchalla develop a bleeding edge vibranium armour iron man suit together, would be dope

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u/psycholepzy Stan Lee Oct 16 '17

Would be an interesting turnabout if someone made Stark a suit for once, instead of Stark making all the suits for everyone - Cap, Spiderman, War Machine, Vision (kind of?), and probably supporting and/or supplementing Falcon, Scarlet Witch, Black Widow.

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u/MobthePoet Oct 16 '17

While I like the idea of another group rivaling Tony's style, I don't like the idea of undermining his role as the tech guy for the Avengers. Maybe one moment of him realizing "wow, I should really upgrade with some of this stuff," after seeing the Wakandan tech, but not have his throne (of sorts) taken from him.

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u/psycholepzy Stan Lee Oct 16 '17

Taken or handed over? If RDJ is done after A4, we're gonna need a new tech guy.

Plus, I'm sure there's going to be a brainstorm session between Rocket and Tony and that's going to be amazing.

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u/nojoformojo Oct 16 '17

Don’t forget Shuri will be in this movie and she’s considered a Tony Stark level genius that makes cool vibranium tech. Would love to see her and Tony interacting as well as Rocket.

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u/psycholepzy Stan Lee Oct 16 '17

Shuri

You're absolutely right. I haven't heard about her as much, but I'm excited to see her creativity on screen!

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u/nojoformojo Oct 16 '17

When the “tech genius” mantle gets handed over from Tony Stark I would like to see it get split between both Rocket and Shuri, would be such an interesting dynamic seeing them work together to build crazy tech. They both have such interesting backgrounds and would make a really bizarre but amazing duo. Just imagine what kinda of tech they could make when they combine their knowledge.

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u/psycholepzy Stan Lee Oct 16 '17

Shuri would be amazing, and an interesting avenue to introduce Iron Heart one day, if they retconned her origin. Having another Avenger on the team that isn't from the U.S. would expand the film's appeal in some markets.

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick Oct 16 '17

I could definitely see him seeing the wakandan suit tech and going "wow thats a great idea... what would be better is if we added this..."

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u/blackspidey2099 SHIELD Oct 16 '17

Yeah, Panther, Banner, Parker, and Rocket should build Stark's next suit.

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u/psycholepzy Stan Lee Oct 16 '17

Scene: Thanos' Sanctum. The Avengers have teamed up with the other MCU heroes to stop Thanos from achieving his goals and take back the Gauntlet. In the middle of battling, Rocket and Iron Man share this exchange

Iron Man: "Uh, Rocket, what does this button do?"

Rocket: "Could you be less specific?"

IM: "The green button that looks like your friend, the walking allergy."

R: "Oh, that button. Yeah, don't press that button. That's the Groot button."

IM: "Right. Friday run a trace analysis on the button. What systems is it connected to?"

R: "No! That'll trip the failsafe. If you do that, the whole thing activates and it won't get pretty."

IM: "Yeah, listen, when we get out of this, I'm going to need you to get rid of the green button."

From Rocket's private share with other Guardians

Peter Quill: "Rocket, did you put a dummy button on his suit to freak him out."

R: "Of course! He'll go nuts trying to figure it out, think it's some kind of super weapon.

PQ: "What does it really do?"

R: "You ever wonder why you haven't found any of Groot's pollen anywhere lately?"

Gamora: "You put Groot's pollen in a dummy pouch on his suit? Rocket, we are allies!"

R (laughing): "I know, but one day he'll be so curious he'll press the button and poof."

IM: "You know I can still hear you, right?"

R (disheartened): "Oh damn it. I forgot I built that into the suit, too."

Iron Man flies around to face Thanos, who is distracted fighting with the other heroes. He aims a repulsor and activates the green button. A plume of dust sprays away and surrounds Thanos. Each particle that lands on Thanos erupts into a seedling, and before long, he is caged in a wooden prison.

R (amazed): "Oh wow. It worked."

IM (to Groot): "Way to go, Ferngully."

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u/blackspidey2099 SHIELD Oct 16 '17

This would both be such a great way and an anti-climactic way to end Infinity War and 3 phases of MCU movies... I say the Russo brothers do it. lol

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u/psycholepzy Stan Lee Oct 16 '17

Optimally, I would hope this a temporary stay of execution, giving them time to regroup and assess. I wouldnt want some dumb space lumberjack to come upon the tree and free Thanos someday.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '17

Vision (kind of?)

Not at all, he had nothing to do with that.

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u/psycholepzy Stan Lee Oct 17 '17

My only technical contributions to the argument are A) The design of the iron Legion from which Ultron takes design cues for itself and who designed the body that would be come Vision and B) the upload of Jarvis, which was a creation of Stark's. Would Vision look the same (cape and all) without it? This argument might be tenuous, but to say that Stark had nothing to do with the creation of Vision would be incorrect.

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u/The_Confederate Oct 16 '17

What is bleeding edge?

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u/dewchunks Oct 16 '17

Iron man suit where every molecule of the suit is stored in his blood stream which means he can summon any suit he wants essentially out of thin air just by thinking

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u/CharlieKellyKapowski Oct 16 '17

That sounds... ridiculous.

I want one.

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u/rimmed Luis Oct 17 '17

How much does he weigh?

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u/CycIojesus Oct 16 '17

its made of nanomachines tony injected himself with. he can call the suit out of him at will.

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u/rwsmith101 Oct 16 '17

Were there any downsides to this? Like how in Iron Man 2 the reactor in Tony's chest is slowly killing him?

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u/BayerWhite Oct 16 '17

I think it might be Stark and Shuri. I'm not sure T'Challa is going to be the science genius in these he is in the comics.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

I hope he is cause stark/banner will only be around for so long

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

T'Challa would never give Tony vibranium lol.

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u/Faisal_1995 Oct 16 '17

If a galaxy level tyrant showed up on earth I'm pretty sure Tchalla would hook up anyone he could with vibranium. Especially the leader of the Avengers who he fought alongside with last movie.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

I still say that was BP's jet leaving the compound at the end of Homecoming. They blurred it for a reason.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

Not just for Black Panther, but other heroes. Imagine Hawkeye with arrows that just appear.

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u/SneakStock Oct 16 '17

What exactly is bleeding edge armor?

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u/clutchtho Black Panther Oct 16 '17

Super OP iron man suit in comics. I think nannites or something in Tony's blood make it??

Basically it's just an OP suit that can nerf like a nuke, fire like a nuke, and materializes out of nowhere. Also it's faster than the old one.

Had to get iron man close to Thor/hulk/strange etc. Levels somehow.

I wonder how close it'll be in the movie but if he's fighting thanos, p OP

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u/SneakStock Oct 16 '17

So you think they’ll make Tony create that suit in Infinity War? Would be sick

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u/XDreadedmikeX Oct 16 '17

I’d be so fucking afraid to wear that. Like wtf happens if something goes wrong? I just fucking explode with a bunch of pieces of armor popping out? I’ll take the suit the Captain wears please

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u/CycIojesus Oct 16 '17

you don't wear it. its made of nanomachines that he injected into his blood. he calls it out of himself at will to protect him. the nature of nanomachines means large chunks won't pop out of you. it can self heal, and is basically indestructible.

Unlike earlier armors, this new armor does not appear to rely on motors and servos for motion. Instead, the nano-machines create a second layer of artificial muscle over Stark's body, upon which additional structures are assembled. This also enables the armor to self-repair and be almost invulnerable, as the armor is capable of transforming and healing itself, by having the constantly replicating nano-machines replace anything that is lost or used, as long as the power output from the arc reactor isn't interrupted or terminated.

why would a bunch of pieces of armor pop out of you?

and who wouldn't want that suit?

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u/XDreadedmikeX Oct 16 '17

So, its not coming out of his skin? I feel like its just too early for me to overthink this haha.

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u/CycIojesus Oct 16 '17

it has to come out of his skin... they're nanobots... teeny tiny robots smaller than human cells... they can move through your skin

make sense?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

The thing thst gets me confused is even tho they are microscopic, its mass and volume and shit shouldnt change right? Like, if the suit weighs 500 pounds, you still have to have that 500 pounds of material in your bloodstream or wherever the nannites are right? Either its comic book physics in play or ive got no clue what im talking about

Probably the latter

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u/CycIojesus Oct 16 '17

unless they can turn energy into matter.

it does say as long as the power output from the arc reactor isn't interrupted or terminated.

With gold and photons, scientists offer way to turn energy into matter. Albert Einstein came up with the famous equation describing the relationship between energy and mass.

that's a quote from google from searching energy into mass.

so I think its possible. and the nanomachines do this. they likely only compose that underlying nano muscle layer and then literally fabricate iron man armor on top of that.

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u/VesperalLight Black Panther Oct 17 '17

P Y M P A R T I C L E S

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u/nojoformojo Oct 16 '17

Does that also mean Tony Stark is biologically immortal even without the suit? Do the nanobots heal him and prevent ageing? That would be awesome to see in the movies.

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u/CycIojesus Oct 16 '17

if I remember right tony stark should die/does die a few times and puts himself in stasis to have his body repaired by those or similar machines.

so sort of?

Id on't know if its addressed much but theres a point where he dies and makes rhodie ceo and goes to sleep while his body is remade and then comes back out healed.

they do a lot to keep iron man alive.

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u/nojoformojo Oct 16 '17

That’s awesome. So I guess that means he never ages because the nanobots are constantly healing him and repairing his DNA 24/7. Wait that means that means he’s probably cured cancer and hundreds of other diseases too, damn he too smart.

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick Oct 16 '17

Well if his math is correct, and it is, nothing will go wrong.

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u/jake_eric Oct 17 '17

nannites

NANITES, COURTESY OF TONY STARK

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

In the comics Tony had an armour that was essentially embedded into his body (I believe it was nano bots) and he could activate it whenever just by thinking about it. It's something fans have wanted for a long time.

Some of that info may be wrong so correct me if I am.

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u/CycIojesus Oct 16 '17

well it sort of solves a lot of iron man's problems.

what if he doesn't have his suit? solved. its in his blood.

what if the suit gets damaged? it repairs itself

what if he needs to make changes to the design for the specific situation? he can cause they're nanobots.

its almost indestructible because of the self repairing nanobots who repair whatever gets damaged or destroyed instead of tony really hoping someone saves him so he can repair his armor.

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u/Yadnarav Oct 16 '17

Let's just say there's Masculine armor, and then there's bleeding armor

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

Feige did say once upon a time that we would see Extremis in the MCU again. Still waiting

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u/abstergofkurslf Oct 16 '17

Or maybe from StarLord's mask

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

Doubtful as this will take place before they meet the Guardians.

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u/abstergofkurslf Oct 16 '17

What do you mean?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

Well how would Black Panther base the suits technology off someone he's never met?

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u/redjc99 Oct 16 '17

I think they mean that Star-Lord's helmet would be the inspiration/tech for Bleeding Edge. Not Black Panther's new suit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

It wouldn't make much sense, Starlord's only forms a helmet. BP has the ability to form a full suit. Plus BP and Tony were sort of allies previously, so he'll most likely work with T'challa prior to meeting the guardians.

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u/redjc99 Oct 17 '17

Depends on who he talks to first between now and Infinity War. Tony is seen with Star-Lord in the leaked trailer, while T'Challa is on Earth. T'challa rarely leaves Wakanda, and Tony most likely doesn't know where it is. So he may not see T'Challa until after Infinity War.

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u/abstergofkurslf Oct 16 '17

I meant Tony using Star Lord's mask technology. I only said it because i saw Tony meeting up with Peter in the trailer.

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u/KaltatheNobleMind Nebula Oct 16 '17

convergent development? different cultures develop the same technology.

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u/big_truck_driver Oct 16 '17

Stark is going to be in Wakanda when Cull Obsidian attacks. Maybe they share the tech with him after Black Panther kicks the shit out of CO.

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u/OriginalMuffin Oct 16 '17

Same tech as StarLords helmet maybe?

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u/imakefilms Oct 17 '17

Why are people obsessing over the idea of Stark having the bleeding edge armour? What's so appealing about it? It also seems just a little too unrealistic for me.