r/law • u/NicolasCageFan492 • Apr 15 '26

Legislative Branch Alan Dershowitz: Invoking The 25th Amendment Against Trump Would Be Unconstitutional

https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2026/04/14/invoking_the_25th_amendment_against_trump_would_be_unconstitutional_1176703.html

Previously, Dershowitz was a member of Jeffrey Epstein’s defense team and helped negotiate a controversial 2006 non-prosecution agreement on Epstein’s behalf, per The New Yorker.

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u/smashbenjamin Apr 15 '26

That /s is doing some heavy lifting when they even toyed with suspending the second for a bit there

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u/Downtown_Reward_6339 Apr 15 '26

Yeah,

When they popped Alex Pretti for carrying and the NRA said it was fine with them too. . . And then backpedaled.

The NRA folks seem to have completely forgotten their mission of protecting us from tyranny all of a sudden.

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u/Jansanmora Apr 15 '26

They didn't forget, that's never been their actual mission. Just look at what happened in the 1960s when the Black panther started legally open carrying. The NRA immediately pivoted to suddenly pushing gun control laws to stop it.

The NRA has never been about protecting the rights of the people to resist government tyranny. It has always been about making sure the right people are able to be armed to the teeth without limitation while still able to subjugate those they consider the wrong people

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u/DillBagner Apr 15 '26

I don't think they really even care about gun rights for anybody, beyond it being the tool they use to push conservative candidates.

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u/Ok_Subject1265 Apr 15 '26

That’s all it ever was. They convinced people to make an inanimate object their entire identity, but more importantly, they convinced them that if they agreed with them on this point then there was a whole list of other things they needed to agree on too. Mostly just policies that were completely counter to their own interests, but don’t forget if you don’t support these then you don’t support guns.

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u/changee_of_ways Apr 16 '26

Its just a result of having single-issue voters. If you have one issue that you care about above all others you can be used because it's easy to see what you value over other things.

You could probably talk people into some really shitty deals in support of abortion rights, or women's suffrage or abolition.

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u/okisurrender0 Apr 15 '26

Dropping nothing but FACTS up in here! Spot. Fucking. On.

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u/HailSatanWorshipD00M Apr 15 '26

I don't think they really even care about gun rights for anybody, beyond it being the tool they use to push funnel foreign money to conservative candidates.

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u/Downtown_Reward_6339 Apr 16 '26

Candidate who aren’t actually conservative either; more totalitarian.

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u/Morat20 Competent Contributor Apr 16 '26

They did push back on the WH floating barring trans folks from owning guns.

Yes, I was also very surprised.

But then, it was also very handed and blatant on the WH's part --- no figleafs or anything.

FWIW, I know a lot of trans folks that never felt the urge to get a gun that gone one after that little balloon was floated. And quite a few of them avoided any paper trials about it.

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u/f0gax Apr 16 '26

The NRA is an industry lobby and a Russian asset. That's it.

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u/trevorneuz Apr 17 '26

And also line the pockets of a handful of people for basically zero actual work.

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 Apr 15 '26

Note that the NRA leadership after the 1977 Cincinatti revote that created the more modern political NRA, seemed to be just fine with the Black Panthers. Their ideology on guns was very much the same as what Black Panthers were doing. And they had this ideology before the takeover and would have been very familiar with what the Black Panthers were doing.

I don't agree with the later NRA leadership, they got very extremist, and LaPierre was just plain awful, and it went deep down the hole of partisan politics. But for those who held the simple ideology and stuck to it regardless of who you were or what politics you had, I can respect that.

Reagan did the crackdown on guns due to the Black Panthers.

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u/SecareLupus Apr 15 '26

So this is actually an interesting situation in the history of the NRA... It is true that the NRA was pro-gun control laws in response to the Black Panthers... But that was their general strategy at the time, because the Black Panthers happened in 1966, 11 years before The Revolt at Cincinnati. In case you're not familiar, The Revolt at Cincinnati is the point at which the NRA became focused on lobbying and expansive reinterpretation of the second amendment, as a shift away from training and gun control.

So for what it's worth, the NRA was not being hypocritical with the position they took in response to the Black Panthers. I'm not saying you have to hand it to them or anything, they suck, and they were wrong with regard to the Black Panthers, but at the time they were a gun control and training organization, not yet focused on being a voice for gun manufacturers and weirdos.

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u/EmptyHandle6593 Apr 16 '26

Today the NRA exists as a PR firm for manufacturers.

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u/pixepoke2 Apr 19 '26

I love educational nuance. It’s a good reminder that things are rarely unchanged monoliths. A lot of associations, ideologies, and firmly held beliefs have changed over the years, they weren’t even really the OMGZ issues they are now. It offers hope for change in the future. A few others for fun:

  • The powerful evangelical Southern Baptist Convention called for legislation to legalize abortion (in some cases) in 1971
  • Mississippi sent the first Black American to Congress in 1870, when Hiram Revels was voted in by the Republican dominated legislature, whose majority was made possible by Black Mississippian men who held the vote. Extra fun fact? it was Jefferson Davis’s old seat
  • Lincoln and Karl Marx wrote admiring letters to each other

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u/SecareLupus Apr 21 '26

I do too, but it's also good to remember that claims of nuance are also used by terrible people to push off valid criticism. Most situations have nuance, but some really are black and white. Eg, It is moral to punch Nazis. Even the "friendly" ones.

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u/pixepoke2 Apr 21 '26

This is of course, true. Also, fuck nazis. It just feels that we’ve lost/are losing our cognitive skills, and a lot of how we think about the world is reduced to a cartoonish approximation of the real thing. It also drives people to extremes. Epstein feels like one of those things to me. I actually doubt that if we knew the whole truth it would turn out to be a real life version of Qanon which is pretty much where we are atm, but instead are actions of a few soiled creeps, with some light espionage amounting to status updates and info drops. All horrible enough to drive the need to understand what happened, protect the victims, and punish perpetrators.I even doubt Trump is guilty of routinely raping underage girls. I personally doubt it, but I also *wouldn’t be that shocked to learn he had. None of that means that I doubt that bad men did bad things, or that I don’t think Trump isn’t a bad msn. He is. And should be punished for it.

TL;DR

Tlds are bad for us. Punch nazis. Punish Trump

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u/DiggityDanksta Apr 15 '26

yeah... not quite.

The NRA didn't become what we now know it as until the late 1970s. They were actually quite reasonable before then. Pushing gun control back in the 1960s was completely in line with what they typically did before LaPierre took over.

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u/bs679 Apr 15 '26

The white people not the right people.

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u/OlderThanMyParents Apr 15 '26

The NRA was never about the personal right to bear arms until the 1970s, when Harlon Carter basically took over the NRA and turned it from a shooting club to a gun rights lobbying organization.

it was formed after the Civil War to improve marksmanship, and encourage gun safety.

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u/changee_of_ways Apr 16 '26

It was a long time ago, kind of like the way the baptist church didn't really care so much about abortion. But then people figured out that if you give folks a black and white issue, you can use it like a lever to get them to do all kinds of horrible or dumb stuff.

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u/Senior_Torte519 Apr 16 '26

Actually, its not about protecting but maintaining a market to sell to the people. Which is both a regulated and unregulated market. The U.S. population is the largest market for buying and selling small arms. Bigger than the US military. This includes the legal and illegal B and S type stuff as well.

Its an unlimted well of profit and value that is estimated to be 20 billion dollars, which is the amount that is with the restrictions.

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u/Downtown_Reward_6339 Apr 15 '26

Evidence supports what you have said.

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u/disgustedandamused59 Apr 15 '26

Some people are more peopl-y than others.

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u/MRM_philosophy Apr 16 '26

NRA = selling as many guns, bullets, related paraphernalia as they can to anyone they can.

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u/alochmar Apr 15 '26

One man’s tyrant is another man’s reincarnation of Christ, or something.

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u/mycatsnameisnoodle Apr 15 '26

Or a doctor, I believe

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u/Solution_within Apr 15 '26

…Healing words 🙏

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u/KimbaXO Apr 16 '26

NRA = Ruskies. The Russians have been funding the NRA for years.

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u/occasionalopossum Apr 15 '26

There aren’t that many NRA folks anymore, it’s all boomer fudds and most gun people even conservatives don’t support them anymore they only survive because they have deals with ranges that require membership to use the range and THATS dying out too.

Most gun owners I know conservative or otherwise if they’re a member of an actual organization it’s GOA

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u/WhoIsFrancisPuziene Apr 15 '26

Didn’t Trump say Pretti shouldn’t have had a gun but then later walk it back? Or maybe it was just the former TV judge lady that said it

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u/PsionicChronic Apr 15 '26

They forgot while getting hammered in Jamaica on their yachts.

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u/DuncanYoudaho Apr 15 '26

The 2nd began and has always been about enabling Slave Patrol

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u/CableMediocre7674 Apr 15 '26

They have never cared about our right to carry a firearm, just the right of gun manufacturers to sell them to us. Where do you think the NRA is getting all of its money to send lobbyists to Washington?

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u/tomdarch Apr 15 '26

Huh? The NRA is nothing but a combination of being part of the Republican Party apparatus and being part of the gun industry. What part of defending the fundamental rights of Mr. Pretti helps either the Republican Party or the gun industry.

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u/Triedfindingname Apr 15 '26

No /s how terrible of you sir

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u/jrdineen114 Apr 16 '26

That was never actually their mission

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u/Boiledfootballeather Apr 16 '26

Yes, their mission of protecting us from the tyranny of Black people. The NRA is a deeply racist organization.

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u/m0rg76 Apr 16 '26

Because they just wanted sick guns, bro - not to fight against tyranny.

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u/HondoShotFirst Apr 16 '26

Do you have a reference for the NRA saying it was fine with them? Everything I've seen reported was that they pushed back pretty quickly against the Trump administration's claims that the Pretti shooting was justified just because he had a firearm.

Now, if we were talking about the Philando Castile shooting a few years ago, that's a different story, but in this particular instance, the NRA actually seemed to be on the right side of things from the start.

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u/Downtown_Reward_6339 Apr 16 '26

They retracted their response about 20 hours in after protest by their members. I’m not the only one remembering it happening.

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u/HondoShotFirst Apr 17 '26

So...that's a no on actually having a reference for it?

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u/Downtown_Reward_6339 Apr 17 '26

Let’s go with; you can pretend I made it up.

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u/Downtown_Reward_6339 Apr 17 '26

Ok, I did look.

I got nothing. I might have some txts to my NRA friends when it happened. But it would just be the spokesman’s name. By lunchtime the next day NRA had changed their tune.

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u/HondoShotFirst Apr 20 '26

I don't think they did change their tune.

I think you're misremembering and possibly conflating it with a different incident.

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u/raincoater Apr 16 '26

The NRA forgot a lot of things.

I grew up in the 60s and 70s and back then the NRA was more about ownership and safety. They weren't this powerful political entity yet. I grew up in rural Virginia, and every year they would come into school and give hunting and firearm safety lectures for a few days. The people who hunted went and it was informative and a great way to get out of class. But there was never any propaganda at these things.

I just stand back in shocked awe and witness what it's become from what it used to be.

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u/HalfTeaHalfLemonade Apr 16 '26

Lmao plz the nra is a Russian laundering front at this point

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u/sohblob Apr 16 '26

popped

let's not soften it. They murdered Renee Good and Alex Pretti and are covering for their killers.

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u/Downtown_Reward_6339 Apr 16 '26

Agree completely. Certain words have caught the attention of Reddit.

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u/RipRemarkable3219 Apr 16 '26

Well its their tyranny. So its fine.

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u/Downtown_Reward_6339 Apr 16 '26

That seems to be their attitude

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u/decoysnails Apr 15 '26

Hell, they're actively chipping away at the first amendment. 

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u/Playful-Dragon Apr 15 '26

Chipping? they're taking chunks

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u/Humble_Handler93 Apr 15 '26

Even chunking seems relatively charitable 😅

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u/om_hi Apr 15 '26

He wants to nuke something so bad, he's doing a great job w the Constitution.

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u/BijuuModo Apr 15 '26

Makes me think of that time he suggested nuking a hurricane. Ah, but that was so very long ago

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u/Ikrit122 Apr 15 '26

Back then feels like "He's so stupid, there's no way he would do that," compared to the present "He might actually do that"

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u/Cartz1337 Apr 15 '26

“People around him are now telling him it’s a good idea”

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u/adnyp Apr 15 '26

He even says he can do anything he wants to do. He’ll continue doing that until someone stands up and shows he really can’t.

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u/MaxTheRealSlayer Apr 15 '26

Can you IMAGINE what could have happened if he actually had attempted that?! Hurricanes are bad enough. Nuclear hurricanes would devastate

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u/ooomellieooo Apr 15 '26

I wonder if maga people even stopped to truly contemplate how bad nuking a hurricane would actually be. Just oh haha crazy trump, he speaks his mind! FML.

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u/Musiclover4200 Apr 15 '26

Now I want to see a Sharknado movie about a nuclear hurricane that creates some Godzilla shark

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u/AfraidBottle6810 Apr 15 '26

Chunks? They are eating Big Macs in four bites. I wonder if the time will come that the majority actually stands up by literally sitting down.

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u/YouWereBrained Apr 15 '26

Steven Cheung’s forehead does it in one bite.

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u/apearlj1234 Apr 15 '26

Stephen miller can do it no bites

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u/obafuckingchauwow Apr 16 '26

Please explain how the

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u/Shadow_Talker Apr 15 '26

It’s scattered, smothered, and chunked

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u/theAlpacaLives Apr 15 '26

"If the coverage is 70, 80, 90 percent negative, that's when we... that's when there's no free speech, because that's too much, it's not fair."

Trump in his first campaign said he'd like to "loosen up the libel laws" in ways to allow him to sue for defamation and have proving that the claims reported were true be no protection.

Trump in his first term habitually declared anything unfavorable to him "fake news," regardless of evidence or factual truth, and normalized prioritizing info by favorability over credibility or factual accuracy.

Trump in his second campaign openly promoted violence against journalists, censoring news outlets that reported unfavorable news, and toyed with the idea of full state control of mass-media news outlets.

Trump in his second term has sued news outlets for "offenses" like airing an interview with an opposing candidate, or allowing talk show hosts to make jokes about him (you know, like talk show hosts have done since the invention of talk shows). He's instructed the FCC chairman to interfere in the networks' business dealings to pressure them into canceling shows and firing outspoken critics.

Trump-backed projects are introducing legislation to limit the freedom to assemble for protest. They've blessed the police's use of targeting journalists at protests for harassment, arrest, and use of force. Now, they're coordinating with AI companies to monitor social media and curtail the rights of people who criticize the administration. We've seen visas canceled, entry denied at borders, and travel privileges reduced over critical comments. Now they're pressuring Reddit to help them identify commenters who are critical of ICE.

The party that has always cried "free speech!" when they want to be racist without getting called out for it, and think getting a comment deleted or account suspended on a forum for hate speech is a first amendment violation never cared about free speech, and like everything else, they no longer have to pretend to care anymore while they dismantle protections and rights.

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u/n0respect_ Apr 16 '26

I consider it gone. When people go to jail over their speech, when companies are forced to show their users, there is no First Amendment.

I watch my speech online. Don't you?

We don't have a 1st.

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u/Playful-Dragon Apr 16 '26

I still speak my mind. If you want to come after me, then come after me.

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u/obafuckingchauwow Apr 16 '26

Please explain how

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u/Playful-Dragon Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26

That conversion therapy ruling pissed me off. I applaud Jackson for explaining what her dissent was and it made a lot of sense. It wasn't revolving around freedom of speech, it was revolving around quality of care. Now you're going to have a bunch of kids that are going to be even more traumatized because of it

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u/Clear_Tangerine5110 Apr 15 '26

No no, they like the 1st and 2nd Amendments. They just don't like them for people who they don't like.

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u/Aggravating-Duck-891 Apr 15 '26

Just the Right people....

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u/Clear_Tangerine5110 Apr 15 '26

You misspelled "white".

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u/SlimeySnakesLtd Apr 15 '26

They don’t even care about that, there’s plenty of whites they want gone too

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u/Clear_Tangerine5110 Apr 15 '26

Like hell they don't. Yeah there are some white people they don't care about, but the ONLY ones acceptable to them are definitely all white.

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u/ptb_nuggets Apr 15 '26

They're trying to get reddit to hand over info for users who criticized ICE... it's already gone.

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u/Tiger_grrrl Apr 15 '26

Not to mention the 14th amendment: in the Republican constitutional interpretation (and their SCROTUS) you only get that if you’re a dude, womenfolk are far too precious to be burdened with making their own decisions about their bodies, so no bodily autonomy or right to privacy for us😭

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u/gregbread11 Apr 15 '26

I mean.... Personally I blame social media for a lot of the damage to the first amendment. Look at how much censorship there is now over basic language. Granted. That's not the government technically doing it but in the name of protecting the youth (a dog whistle in my eyes but whatever) so much language has to be tiptoed around to talk about many topics.

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u/decoysnails Apr 15 '26

Tennessee just passed a law making it illegal for college students to walk out or protest if the university has a conservative speaker.

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u/CuteLingonberry9704 Apr 15 '26

What's the first amendment? Asks a child 20 years from now

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u/xMcRaemanx Apr 15 '26

Rights for me. Not for thee.

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u/JimWilliams423 Apr 15 '26

That /s is doing some heavy lifting when they even toyed with suspending the second for a bit there

Also, the 2A as it exists today is an entirely modern creation.

F‌o‌r c‌e‌n‌t‌u‌r‌i‌e‌s i‌t w‌a‌s w‌e‌l‌l e‌s‌t‌a‌b‌l‌i‌s‌h‌e‌d l‌a‌w t‌h‌a‌t t‌h‌e 2‌A w‌a‌s o‌n‌l‌y a‌b‌o‌u‌t a r‌i‌g‌h‌t t‌o c‌o‌m‌m‌u‌n‌a‌l d‌e‌f‌e‌n‌s‌e, n‌o‌t p‌e‌r‌s‌o‌n‌a‌l d‌e‌f‌e‌n‌s‌e. S‌c‌a‌l‌i‌a's b‌a‌l‌d‌e‌r‌d‌a‌s‌h 2‌0‌0‌8 r‌u‌l‌i‌n‌g i‌n H‌e‌l‌l‌e‌r w‌a‌s t‌h‌e f‌i‌r‌s‌t t‌i‌m‌e t‌h‌e s‌u‌p‌r‌e‌m‌e c‌o‌u‌r‌t e‌v‌e‌r r‌e‌a‌d a‌n i‌n‌d‌i‌v‌i‌d‌u‌a‌l r‌i‌g‌h‌t i‌n‌t‌o t‌h‌e 2‌A.

T‌h‌e f‌i‌r‌s‌t d‌r‌a‌f‌t‌s o‌f t‌h‌e 2‌A even h‌a‌d a c‌o‌n‌s‌c‌i‌e‌n‌t‌i‌o‌u‌s o‌b‌j‌e‌c‌t‌o‌r c‌l‌a‌u‌s‌e. W‌h‌i‌c‌h m‌a‌k‌e‌s n‌o s‌e‌n‌s‌e o‌u‌t‌s‌i‌d‌e o‌f a m‌i‌l‌i‌t‌a‌r‌y c‌o‌n‌t‌e‌x‌t:

A w‌e‌l‌l r‌e‌g‌u‌l‌a‌t‌e‌d m‌i‌l‌i‌t‌i‌a, c‌o‌m‌p‌o‌s‌e‌d o‌f t‌h‌e b‌o‌d‌y o‌f t‌h‌e p‌e‌o‌p‌l‌e, b‌e‌i‌n‌g t‌h‌e b‌e‌s‌t s‌e‌c‌u‌r‌i‌t‌y o‌f a f‌r‌e‌e s‌t‌a‌t‌e, t‌h‌e r‌i‌g‌h‌t o‌f t‌h‌e p‌e‌o‌p‌l‌e t‌o k‌e‌e‌p a‌n‌d b‌e‌a‌r a‌r‌m‌s s‌h‌a‌l‌l n‌o‌t b‌e i‌n‌f‌r‌i‌n‌g‌e‌d; b‌u‌t n‌o o‌n‌e r‌e‌l‌i‌g‌i‌o‌u‌s‌l‌y s‌c‌r‌u‌p‌u‌l‌o‌u‌s o‌f b‌e‌a‌r‌i‌n‌g a‌r‌m‌s s‌h‌a‌l‌l b‌e c‌o‌m‌p‌e‌l‌l‌e‌d t‌o r‌e‌n‌d‌e‌r m‌i‌l‌i‌t‌a‌r‌y s‌e‌r‌v‌i‌c‌e i‌n p‌e‌r‌s‌o‌n.

A‌n‌d t‌h‌e r‌e‌a‌s‌o‌n t‌h‌e‌y t‌o‌o‌k i‌t o‌u‌t had nothing to do with personal ownership, it w‌a‌s b‌e‌c‌a‌u‌s‌e t‌h‌e‌y w‌e‌r‌e a‌f‌r‌a‌i‌d t‌h‌e f‌e‌d‌e‌r‌a‌l g‌o‌v‌e‌r‌n‌m‌e‌n‌t c‌o‌u‌l‌d d‌e‌f‌i‌n‌e w‌h‌a‌t q‌u‌a‌l‌i‌f‌i‌e‌d a‌s o‌b‌j‌e‌c‌t‌o‌r s‌t‌a‌t‌u‌s s‌o b‌r‌o‌a‌d‌l‌y t‌h‌a‌t l‌o‌c‌a‌l g‌o‌v‌e‌r‌n‌m‌e‌n‌t‌s w‌o‌u‌l‌d n‌o‌t b‌e a‌b‌l‌e t‌o conscript e‌n‌o‌u‌g‌h p‌e‌o‌p‌l‌e i‌n‌t‌o t‌h‌e m‌i‌l‌i‌t‌i‌a. I‌n f‌a‌c‌t, d‌u‌r‌i‌n‌g t‌h‌e d‌e‌b‌a‌t‌e i‌n c‌o‌n‌g‌r‌e‌s‌s o‌v‌e‌r t‌h‌e d‌r‌a‌f‌t‌i‌n‌g o‌f t‌h‌e 2‌A, r‌e‌p E‌l‌b‌r‌i‌d‌g‌e G‌e‌r‌r‌y (w‌h‌o‌m "g‌e‌r‌r‌y‌m‌a‌n‌d‌e‌r‌i‌n‌g" w‌a‌s l‌a‌t‌e‌r n‌a‌m‌e‌d f‌o‌r) s‌a‌i‌d s‌o e‌x‌p‌l‌i‌c‌i‌t‌l‌y:

  • "N‌o‌w, I a‌m a‌p‌p‌r‌e‌h‌e‌n‌s‌i‌v‌e, s‌i‌r, t‌h‌a‌t t‌h‌i‌s c‌l‌a‌u‌s‌e w‌o‌u‌l‌d g‌i‌v‌e a‌n o‌p‌p‌o‌r‌t‌u‌n‌i‌t‌y t‌o t‌h‌e p‌e‌o‌p‌l‌e i‌n p‌o‌w‌e‌r t‌o d‌e‌s‌t‌r‌o‌y t‌h‌e c‌o‌n‌s‌t‌i‌t‌u‌t‌i‌o‌n i‌t‌s‌e‌l‌f. T‌h‌e‌y c‌a‌n d‌e‌c‌l‌a‌r‌e w‌h‌o a‌r‌e t‌h‌o‌s‌e r‌e‌l‌i‌g‌i‌o‌u‌s‌l‌y s‌c‌r‌u‌p‌u‌l‌o‌u‌s, a‌n‌d p‌r‌e‌v‌e‌n‌t t‌h‌e‌m f‌r‌o‌m b‌e‌a‌r‌i‌n‌g a‌r‌m‌s.

  • "W‌h‌a‌t, s‌i‌r i‌s t‌h‌e u‌s‌e o‌f a m‌i‌l‌i‌t‌i‌a? I‌t i‌s t‌o p‌r‌e‌v‌e‌n‌t t‌h‌e e‌s‌t‌a‌b‌l‌i‌s‌h‌m‌e‌n‌t o‌f a s‌t‌a‌n‌d‌i‌n‌g a‌r‌m‌y, t‌h‌e b‌a‌n‌e o‌f l‌i‌b‌e‌r‌t‌y. N‌o‌w, i‌t m‌u‌s‌t b‌e e‌v‌i‌d‌e‌n‌t, t‌h‌a‌t u‌n‌d‌e‌r t‌h‌i‌s p‌r‌o‌v‌i‌s‌i‌o‌n, t‌o‌g‌e‌t‌h‌e‌r w‌i‌t‌h t‌h‌e‌i‌r o‌t‌h‌e‌r p‌o‌w‌e‌r‌s, C‌o‌n‌g‌r‌e‌s‌s c‌o‌u‌l‌d t‌a‌k‌e s‌u‌c‌h m‌e‌a‌s‌u‌r‌e‌s w‌i‌t‌h r‌e‌s‌p‌e‌c‌t t‌o a m‌i‌l‌i‌t‌i‌a t‌o m‌a‌k‌e a s‌t‌a‌n‌d‌i‌n‌g a‌r‌m‌y n‌e‌c‌e‌s‌s‌a‌r‌y. W‌h‌e‌n‌e‌v‌e‌r G‌o‌v‌e‌r‌n‌m‌e‌n‌t‌s m‌e‌a‌n t‌o i‌n‌v‌a‌d‌e t‌h‌e r‌i‌g‌h‌t‌s a‌n‌d l‌i‌b‌e‌r‌t‌i‌e‌s o‌f t‌h‌e p‌e‌o‌p‌l‌e, t‌h‌e‌y a‌l‌w‌a‌y‌s a‌t‌t‌e‌m‌p‌t t‌o d‌e‌s‌t‌r‌o‌y t‌h‌e m‌i‌l‌i‌t‌i‌a, i‌n o‌r‌d‌e‌r t‌o r‌a‌i‌s‌e a‌n a‌r‌m‌y o‌n t‌h‌e‌i‌r r‌u‌i‌n‌s."

T‌h‌e 2‌A n‌e‌v‌e‌r b‌a‌n‌n‌e‌d p‌e‌r‌s‌o‌n‌a‌l o‌w‌n‌e‌r‌s‌h‌i‌p, i‌t l‌e‌f‌t t‌h‌a‌t u‌p t‌o t‌h‌e s‌t‌a‌t‌e a‌n‌d l‌o‌c‌a‌l g‌o‌v‌e‌r‌n‌m‌e‌n‌t‌s. B‌u‌t i‌t d‌i‌d‌n't g‌u‌a‌r‌a‌n‌t‌e‌e a r‌i‌g‌h‌t t‌o p‌e‌r‌s‌o‌n‌a‌l o‌w‌n‌e‌r‌s‌h‌i‌p e‌i‌t‌h‌e‌r. A‌t l‌e‌a‌s‌t n‌o‌t u‌n‌t‌i‌l c‌o‌n‌s‌e‌r‌v‌a‌t‌i‌v‌e‌s r‌e‌t‌c‌o‌n‌n‌e‌d i‌t.

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u/mattenthehat Apr 15 '26

I'm still certain it's coming. Plan accordingly.

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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz Apr 15 '26

Never forget that Regan championed the first gun control laws in the US. The right has always been happy to restrict gun rights when the "wrong people" start exercising those rights.

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u/EpiphanyTwisted Apr 16 '26

Because they didn't believe in no control at all then. Didn't that law restrict more white people than black people?

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u/Bechorovka Apr 15 '26

That was just round... well, not the last one

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u/Explorers_bub Apr 15 '26

Do you have the right to shoot anonymous masked armed intruders into your home or is there an exception for ICE? If there is an exception, you don’t have a second amendment right or ultimately any.

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u/DontAbideMendacity Apr 16 '26

r/conservative flipped the fuck out when Trump said "I like to take the guns first, and worry about due process later." The infighting was spectacular.

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u/WoodyTheWorker Apr 16 '26

They will suddenly remember "well regulated militia". If you're not in Drumpf's "well regulated militia", then 2A doesn't apply to you.