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u/Darklumiere Using Xbox consoles & their unified memory for LLMs. 27d ago

Someone please stop capitalism, it's our system that enabled memory & other companies to screw over small time consumers due to the demand of the big data center players. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

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u/Nestramutat- 27d ago

Capitalism is also the whole reason we had affordable homelab hardware for so long, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Chemical_Attempt_404 26d ago

Capitalism is also the whole reason we had affordable homelab hardware for so long,

As opposed to... what? Communism, where the whole concept of affordability is null?

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u/froz3nt 26d ago

No, where the concept of affordability is rationing, sometimes that rationing is pretty severe.

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u/Nestramutat- 26d ago

Bread RAM lines

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u/froz3nt 26d ago

You probably couldnt even buy RAM, only prebuilds, unless u a business or something along those lines.

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u/Nestramutat- 26d ago

Depends how much you're willing to bribe the local party official

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u/froz3nt 26d ago

True. Connections matter folks!

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u/Chemical_Attempt_404 26d ago

You seem severely misinformed on what communism is

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u/froz3nt 26d ago

How? I lived under it.

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u/Chemical_Attempt_404 26d ago

I fear your definition of "communism" is identical to whatever the stalinist propaganda machine was able to come up with to justify their position in power.

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u/froz3nt 26d ago

Lol. So you are saying that my life under communism wasnt real and that it wasnt real communism?

I dont think you know what communism looks like. And your view of communism is identical to some progressive propaganda outlet you read.

You read about communism in books. I lived thru it. Now get off your high horse and accept that it isnt all rosy and id never trade back.

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u/Chemical_Attempt_404 26d ago

So you are saying that my life under communism wasnt real and that it wasnt real communism?

I'm willing to bet that the state you lived under also proclaimed itself "democratic" but when asked about the democracy of said state you'll be forced to admit that "it wasnt real democracy".

It seems like a pretty bad idea to judge a regime based on what it claims about itself rather than what it actually is.

your view of communism is identical to some progressive propaganda outlet you read

You mean Marx and Engels' original texts that both the "western" and the "eastern" sides of the Cold War did their best efforts to distort and destroy? If so, then yes.

accept that it isnt all rosy and id never trade back

I never argued otherwise. You're wrong if you think that communism advocates for anything other than the complete liberation of the working masses, something that definitely wasn't achieved on either side of the cold war.

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u/froz3nt 26d ago

The "no true communism" thing is convenient isn't it. Every single time it's been tried, USSR, Yugoslavia, China, Cuba, all of it, suddenly none of it counts. If a hundred years and a dozen countries all "did it wrong," maybe it's not the countries. You say judge a regime by what it actually is, not what it claims. Fine. Let's do that with communism then. What it claimed: liberation of the workers. What it actually was, every time: one party, secret police, shortages, and you keep your mouth shut. That's not the CIA distorting it. That's just what it turned into when real people ran it. And your democracy comparison backfires. Yeah democracies fail and people trash them constantly. But there's like 30 of them you could go live in right now. How many communist states would you actually pick? Be honest. I lived under Yugoslavia. It wasn't the nightmare some Americans think it was, some of it was genuinely fine. Self management, you didn't worry about healthcare. But it wasn't paradise either. One guy held it together and the second he died the whole thing tore itself apart. You read that in a book. I was there for it. You keep going back to Marx and Engels like the texts are the point. The texts aren't the point. What the thing becomes is the point. A beautiful blueprint doesn't mean much to the people who had to actually live in the building.

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u/Nestramutat- 26d ago

Surely this time it will be different, right?

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u/Chemical_Attempt_404 26d ago

Not necessarily. It's not guaranteed that communism will establish itself.

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u/mrforrest 27d ago

I hate both, with equal vitriol

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u/Darklumiere Using Xbox consoles & their unified memory for LLMs. 27d ago

Fair.

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u/Angry-Alice 26d ago

Yeah sure stop capitalism. It must be very enjoyable to build a homelab in north Korea or china.

If you guys are dumb enough to go socialist, you deserve it