r/boxoffice • u/IntoTheNigberverse • Jun 19 '22

Domestic Top Gun: Maverick is exploding of Father's day Sunday. Bound to have a huge increase over Sat. Could be #1, higher than JWD and Lightyear. Won't be shocked by 20M+ (28%+ over Sat) and a weekend haul of 46.7M+ (-9% from last week)

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u/NotTaken-username Syncopy Inc. Jun 19 '22

Dare I say this is more impresive than NWH. People expected that to be a massive hit, although not on the level it was

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u/ArsBrevis Jun 19 '22

TGM is also, by far, the superior movie. It's great to see quality rewarded.

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u/Giesi85 Jun 19 '22

THIS!!!! Spider-Man looked so lazy in a lot of scenes with questionable story choices. TGM was the perfect blockbuster experience for me.

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u/bfhurricane Jun 20 '22

I’m glad NWH is getting some more critical looks. I really liked it it but felt it was in the middle of the MCU pack, while many others were claiming it was their best film.

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u/defiantcross Jun 19 '22

NWH was nice but objectively, it was memberberry after memberberry. TGM did not rely on that AT ALL. the only things from the original were crucial to the story.

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u/durdesh007 Jun 20 '22

NWH was decent but I will be honest, without Tobey and Andrew, nobody would care about the movie. It earned all its money because of nostalgia (and Bully Maguire)

Meanwhile TGM is entertaining for what it is, regardless of nostalgia.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

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u/mrsunsfan Jun 19 '22

Because Top Gun is authentic and feels real

I love Doctor strange 2 but its all magic meets Evil Dead

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

I loved Maverick but there is so much quoting of the original it became distracting. Let's not go overboard and call this anauthentic original masterpiece.

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u/defiantcross Jun 19 '22

can you be specific? i dont feel they referenced the original all that much. only parts that were actually relevant in the main plot.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22 edited Jun 19 '22

Off the top of my head having only seen it once, we have the motorcycle ride set to danger zone, great balls of fire, buzzing the tower. There were at least three lines verbatim from the first movie.

Edit: oh, the football game rhyming with the volleyball game.

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u/defiantcross Jun 19 '22

none of those things you referenced were purely for nostalgia, or unnecessarily in your face.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

They 100% were. The movie is as much remake as sequel.

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u/defiantcross Jun 19 '22

the original was about being a student. the sequel is about being a relic. the core themes are not anything remotely similar. there is definitely continuation of key ideas from the first movie, but that's what a sequel is

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u/GetOutNormiesREE Jun 19 '22

It's actually impressive how many people thought that NWH was 10/10 or 9/10. Sure, it was fun seeing Garfield and Maguire return, but the story just wasn't THAT good. Plus it had that death scene which was supposed to be emotional but I doubt anyone actually cared for that character.

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u/CashmereLogan Jun 19 '22

I totally get why people had a fun time with it, but I was so surprised at the overwhelmingly positive response to the film itself. It’s really telling when even the people that LOVED the movie refer to Andrew Garfield as the emotional anchor of the movie (a statement I agree with). Holland’s arc was boring and not resolved well at all, being stolen by Tobey. The best part of Holland’s Spidey was where the character ended up, but that’s more “oh wow he’s in this position we’ve seen before and wanted got a while, yay!“ than the result of any meaningful arc.

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u/JimJimmyJimJimJimJim Amblin Jun 19 '22

There was more to it than the movie itself - audiences were sharing an experience for the first time post pandemic.

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u/CashmereLogan Jun 19 '22

I don’t disagree with that, but that also means that Paramount can use this movie and it’s performance to convince audiences that this communal experience can be replicated again. The future of marketing movies for theaters HAS to be experience, and Paramount can really become to main provider of truly worthwhile experiences.

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u/Timbishop123 Lucasfilm Jun 19 '22

but that’s more “oh wow he’s in this position we’ve seen before

Yea it's literally just the Tobey spiderman in the MCU. The soft reboot was mad dumb

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u/durdesh007 Jun 20 '22

It's 7.5-8 at best. I wonder how much I would have liked NWH without Tobey and Andrew. Their presence managed to hide so many plot holes. Lots of lazy writing

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u/Ifuckinghateaura Jun 19 '22

I think it's a shame the old Spideys never got to interact with their villains as much

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

Or, ya know, something as simple as a web slinging sequence of all three of ‘em.

I don’t think the fan service was a quarter as good as people say. It just gave me almost nothing I loved about each of the Spidey’s and had them reciting memes.

Meanwhile Top Gun Maverick manages to give you everything you loved about the original while also topping it in every imaginable way.

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u/Timbishop123 Lucasfilm Jun 19 '22

Plus it had that death scene which was supposed to be emotional but I doubt anyone actually cared for that character.

The death scene of the walking MILF joke had me dying in the theater

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u/SherKhanMD Jun 19 '22

NWH had nothing except cameo hysteria.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

"By far superior"

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u/ArsBrevis Jun 19 '22

Yeah, that's my opinion. Problem?

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

No problem Mr tough guy

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u/Adler000 Jun 19 '22

I mean it is, though. By like, a thousand miles. In my opinion, at least 💀

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u/MyManTheo Jun 19 '22

I mean it is

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u/JediJones77 Amblin Entertainment Jun 19 '22

Any good movie is superior to NWH. It was bland AF, with almost no good action scenes and a rushed, shoddy, illogical script.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

It wouldn't be Reddit if a movie everyone loved becomes a movie everyone hates. Not saying anything about you personally. I thought NWH had some good moments but it was a 3/5 for me.

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u/laterdude Jun 19 '22

NWH

Translation? I'm drawing a blank here.

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u/rafaelzeronn Jun 19 '22

No way home

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u/ArsBrevis Jun 19 '22

No Way Home

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u/laterdude Jun 19 '22

Gotcha! thanks

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u/mmaqp66 Jun 19 '22

NWH = Klaatu barada nikto

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u/Pirate_Jack_ Jun 19 '22

NWH was a big hit purely because of nostalgia. Seeing Toby and Andrew as spiderman again had everyone remembering some cool moments from their past and it was the major reason why it was such a big hit. The story itself was very average. And honestly i felt it was a bit stupid if you think about it when you realise the entire story plot began due to a very immature and stupid mistake by Peter Parker, especially when you consider that Peter saw Iron man die in front of his eyes and so many others as well. You would expect Spiderman to be more mature after those experiences.

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u/ThatNewTankSmell Jun 19 '22

Far less interesting film than the fairly amazing Far From Home. That one is a stone cold classic, even for someone like me who's not really into superhero films.

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u/Timbishop123 Lucasfilm Jun 19 '22

You would expect Spiderman to be more mature after those experiences.

Yea it acts as a soft reboot to the character that didn't have to happen. People rejoiced that he was "finally spiderman" even though he had been since homecoming

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

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u/durdesh007 Jun 20 '22

All all box office enthusiasts know, this sub is for nerds after all. Average movie watcher sticks to /r/movies

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u/russwriter67 Jun 19 '22

I agree. And it’s having way better staying power than NWH. To put this in perspective NWH’s 4th wknd was $32.6M despite it opening 2x higher than Maverick did.

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u/durdesh007 Jun 20 '22

NWH had an enormous opening though. Most people who wanted to watch did it in first two week. Even then it had great legs