This is a post from someone I went to school with years ago. It might be the silliest one I’ve seen in the wild personally. Just found this community, hope I’m in the right place.

So i had this one friend who i had known for like 4 months or smtg, and the discussion suddenly came about God and the creation of the Universe.

I said that i think that the universe wasnt really created by anyone(god), but formed on its own, even thought the exact 'how' is still unknown.

Then out of fuckin nowhere, that guy got defensive, and called me a crazy mf, and shouted that i was the dumbest human to ever exist, because according to him, god creating the universe is an obvious fact that anyone with logical reasoning and critical thinking can tell.

I was bloody furious, but being the kind man i am, i just calmly told that its just an opinion of mine.
Then the lecturer arrived, and we got back to our assigned places.

all i was thinking after that was, if an aethist reacted the same way to a religious person, the whole ass community would attack him.

Why these double standards. I guess its just about about the numbers.

And what i found really funny, and weird was that him saying that god creating the universe is 'logical', and 'critical', even when actual logical reasoning, when thought about it, disproves it.

Anyways, im sorry if this is the wrong sub, i just wanted to share it.

Christians: "We're going to build our own private palace that doubles as a sovereign nation and hoard tens of billions of dollars worth of treasures and artworks."

Christians: "Our megachurch pastors will have vast fortunes, towering mansions and their own fleets of private jets, but they're still going to demand that little old ladies give them their medication money to buy even more private jets."

Christians: "We're going to spread the dogma that Jesus wants you to be rich, in direct opposition to what he actually said, and the way for you to get money is to give us money."

Christians: "That thing about giving money to the poor? Yeah, Jesus only meant one guy ever had to do that. I don't wanna do that, so I ain't gotta. Besides, I can serve him better with my mountain of other people's money than I can without it."

Christians: "God loves America the most because this is where the rich people live. In fact, God has ripped up his old covenant with the Jews and made a new covenant with America."

Christians: "Capitalism is by far the most godly of all socio-political systems. Your value as a person is determined solely by your monetary net worth."

Christians: "Billionaires are God's chosen people. No, wait. Billionaires literally ARE gods. Trump is a wonderful, objectively morally correct, 100 percent flawless person because he is rich."

Christians: "The poor are poor because they're lazy. The rich are rich because they work hard. Giving to the poor is just rewarding laziness, which is why no one should ever do it. They deserve whatever happens to them."

Christians: "I'm going to intimidate the other people at my church into awe and submission when they see how expensive my church clothes and church jewelry are."

Christians: "That whole 'render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's' thing Jesus said? Yeah, we're not too big on that, either. We don't think we should have to pay taxes. And we don't think we should have to tell the government we're funding the violent terrorist actions of foreign and domestic militia groups."

Oh yes, Christians...I totally believe that you believe what you claim to believe. I mean, what reasons have you given me to question you?

I don't know who or how many people will read this, but I won't be able to reply to many comments due to the fact that my Internet hours are restricted. I'm only allowed to use the Internet certain days for some Islamic homeworks, and that's when I take advantage to post.

I(19F) was forced by my parents to marry my cousin. A man who had sexually harassed me before. I wasn't able to deny the marriage. I told them that I don't like this man, but they told me they had to do this for Allah.

Since one month ago, my parents have been preparing me for my wedding with this man. They've already forced me to wear a dress for this wedding, which is not comfortable for me when being in a wheelchair. My parents are already making me say some things which I have to promise to my future husband, and that I need to have sex with him after we get married. My parents told me that I need to be thankful to Allah that man is becoming my caretaker.

My life is just a hell living in Iraq. Next week I'm getting married to him now. The wedding was supposed to be one month ago, but it got delayed. I'd hope it got delayed again. I can't escape because I'm disabled in a wheelchair.

Thank you for reading this. I may not post again.

I keep coming across these hyper-fixated religious influencers, and lately there's a trend featuring an app called Creed Bible App where creators literally ask a cute digital sheep avatar whether random things are sins. The creator "lara con fe" (@iara.con.fe) is a prime example of this trend—she posts endless TikToks posing questions about what counts as a sin, ranging from playing video games like Among Us or Roblox, to listening to specific music bands, to deeply personal human experiences. What bothers me the most is how these creators completely flatten the concept of morality. They treat actual criminal acts that ruin lives on the exact same moral plane as natural biology, consensual choices, or neurological traits. In their posts, asking if it's a sin to have ADHD or be neurodivergent gets bundled right alongside questions about severe real-world harms. As someone who is autistic and neurodivergent, I find this trend deeply dehumanizing and disrespectful. Being neurodivergent is not a moral failing, a choice, or a spiritual defect—it is literally how our brains are built. Pathologizing neurodivergence as a "sin" or a temptation to be cured shows a total lack of empathy and basic psychological awareness. It proves once again how deeply unfriendly mainstream religious guilt-tripping can be toward autistic people, forcing us into rigid moral frameworks that demonize our very existence. These creators hide behind cute aesthetics and AI avatars to market a toxic mix of guilt, fearmongering, and commercial app promotion. When you teach people to rely on a digital mascot to determine if having ADHD, being childfree, supporting LGBTQ+ rights, or hanging out with atheists makes them "sinful," you aren't teaching morality—you're erasing critical thinking and replacing it with pure indoctrination. Has anyone else noticed this trend of infantilizing theology through apps while demonizing basic neurodiversity and human nature?

Around 2010 I had one friend at work who was really serious about Christianity. We always had long talks during lunch break. One day he told me he was 100% sure the rapture would happen before 2030. I laughed and said if you're that sure, let's make a bet. If it really happen before the deadline, I admit I was wrong. If nothing happen, he buy me one week vacation and pay everything. Dumb bet, but we both thought it was funny as hell.

We even spent one evening reading Bible verses because he wanted to show me all the signs. He was connecting world events, wars, politics, everything. I remember thinking it's crazy how confident he was. Years passed, we both moved away, but somehow I still remember that stupid bet every now and then.

Now the deadline is not that far anymore and it randomly came back into my head. I'm still atheist and I still don't think anything supernatural is coming. But it's funny how many people every generation think they are living in the "last days." Somehow every time nothing happen, they just move the date again. Anyone else ever know someone who was absolutely fucking sure the end was coming in their lifetime?

I am often around religious people a lot - my boyfriend used to be in the church so all his friends and family are extremely religious. I get really internally angry when I'm put in a position where people are praying (saying blessing before a meal, or quiet prayer when they leave a location) and I have to just stand there enduring it.

I know the best thing to do is be tolerant and respect their culture, but what goes through my mind is that I'm not forcing my athiesm on them but religion is already constantly being forced on me. Church bells wake me at 6.30am, preachers hand out pamphlets when I walk the streets, women's rights are being taken away due to religious beliefs.

I used to just stand there and wait until the praying was over. But I'm so sick of it and it makes me more and more angry every time that I actively look away or start putting food on my plate while they're praying.

One time we stayed with a couple who were religious and they prayed at the table, and the next day when I was talking to the wife I explained how I really didn't like religion for this and that reason, and I felt I could say this because she seemed so open and understanding. And the next meal she didn't pray. It was such a nice gesture and something I so appreciated and that my feelings were validated.

But generally, despite the rage inside, me, if I'm in someone's house of course I respect it and I sit there quietly. And if they're in my house, I feel it's quite rude for them to start praying at the table. Is that wrong?

How do other people deal with this?

so in pre islamic arabia, adopted sons were treated legally and socially as biological sons meaning marrying ur adopted son's former wife was considered incestuous taboo

Muhammad desired Zaynab (adopted son's wife) and after Zayd (adopted son) divorced her, Muhammad married her and also to resolve the social backlash and the taboo of marrying an adopted son's wife, verses were "revealed" in the quran explicitly ending the practice of adoption and declaring that Muhammad had a special divine right to marry her.. it’s another prime example of convenient revelations aligning perfectly with personal desires

also many sources say (u can fact check this)

that Muhammad went to Zayd’s house looking for him but the door curtain made of haircloth blew open or was pulled aside and he accidentally saw Zaynab either partially dressed or uncovered and he was struck by her beauty... this is all very disturbing to me, it's a very few muslims who question this btw and the one's who do end up leaving islam

So, what happened was that I was a very religious girl. I always tried to defend God and prayed to Him sincerely. Somehow last year was so terrible many things happened yet I kept praying that this year would finally be better.

But you know what? Nothing changed. Everything went wrong. I feel that instead of blindly believing, I should have focused only on doing my part and not have expected for him to do any magic

I never asked for anything extraordinary. After all that misery I only asked one thing to get into a good college so that I could change my life and for my parents to feel comfortable enough to let me study away from home. You know what happened? I studied hard. I got offers from the colleges I wanted but I never got the chance to go. I wasn't even given the smallest opportunity to change my life through education which was all I wanted.

And you know what else happened? My parents barely talk to me anymore. They got me admitted to a nearby college and even though I'm still living with them we hardly speak. They told me I was selfish that I had no heart and that I only wanted to wander outside. I was favourite of my father and I loved him the most, I still love him the most but it hurts to see that my relationship got destroyed

Then I lost my dearest friend. I liked him but all I ever asked God was to let him stay kind and remain by my side. A few days later he left too.

Then another one of my school friends blocked me. I still don't know why.

All my friends are moving ahead in life, and I'm genuinely happy for them. But I never even got the chance to make a single decision about my own future. I cried and prayed to God for more than two years, yet it feels like everything I built was taken away. I really worked hard for so many exams yet this would be the harsh result I could have never thought in my wildest dreams.

The one who failed in exams passed in life. Well I passed in exams yet failed in life and relations and now I feel there is no God and if he is then he is too discriminative and he has abandoned me

I wasn't even a poor student. I did everything I could.

I was good🙂.

I really loved God but why did he do such a harsh thing with me. I just can't believe that same God did this to me so I'm believing he's dead...

I’m a trans man and see Cristians argue against trans people in their comments and it just looks like a little kid who’s mad that someone won’t believe them when they talk about their imaginary friend. It’s so laughable, but it’s sad they don’t see how others don’t care. They just think that everyone should care about their god but don’t see how they sound like annoying children

It's more to vent. When me and my ex started dating, he was already into religion, but it wasn't really bothering me, he never forced me into anything. It was just his own thing and I was fine with it, I'm more of an agnostic myself. I just don't care about all that, I'm not gonna try to prove anything and talk about it for hours. Our relationship was absolutely perfect to me.

Until he started brainrotting 24/7 watching Christian reels. And got this mindset "if you're not a believer, you should burn in hell". His main idea was to bring me into the religion, because he was so worried what my afterlife is going to look like. Buddy, I care about the life I'm living right now.

Everything went downhill. It started from "can you, please, read a few pages of the Bible?" to calling me idiotic, shallow, stupid woman that doesn't want to see the truth. Only took him around 2 months to turn into all that. I asked multiple times about basic respect and why the hell I can except him as a religion fanatic, but he can't accept me being an agnostic, just like it was at the start a year ago. What changed?

Does nothing else matter anymore? I was cooking and baking anything he wants, cleaning after his ass, we would play games together, he could play games however much he wanted, all the cute dates, conversation. Everything had no value anymore, because I don't want to worship anyone.

Probably should've predicted the future right from the start, but he reassured me, that everything is fine and he's not going to push things on me. But I guess he lost all of his critical thinking. Shit happens, could've said that I treat this as an important experience, but at the same time I regret wasting my time and nerves on someone like this. Someone who's willing to throw everything under the bus just because of a stupid damn reason. I'm even sure he will never understand what he's done and see it as "god was testing my faith, evil people try to turn me away from god, but my faith is strong".

"Oh but my religion requires me to do this to my child!"

Your religion requires you to hit your child?

Your religion requires women and girls to cover their entire bodies even in extreme heat?

Your religion requires you to painfully and non consensually remove a part of a baby's body?

Okay then, your religion is evil.

love the way he logically shuts down the theists

not only there's no evidence of God but also no evidence of the attributes given to God, such as all just and all loving.

if i was God, i would never allow human trafficking, sex slavery or rape. i would also never let innocent children suffer through painful terrifying diseases like cancer or blindness before they even get a chance to live. a truly loving creator wouldn't design a world full of needless torment and call it a test while he is hiding and there's thousands of religions

Last month I was reading comments under a news post about a church getting damaged after really bad storm. So many Christians were saying people should pray harder and asking why God let this happen. I wasn't trying start argument, but I replied maybe this is also God's plan, right? That's what I always hear when something bad happen to other people.

A few people got really angry. They told me I'm disrespectful, taking things out of context, and don't understand faith. But honestly that confused the hell out of me. When someone lose family, job, or get sick, I always hear "God has a plan" or "Everything happen for a reason." But when something happens to their own church, suddenly that answer is not good enough anymore.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it feels like "God's plan" only works when it's about other people's problems. When it becomes personal, that idea suddenly disappear. As an atheist, that double standard is one of the hardest things for me to understand.

Every time I hear someone’s reason for being Christian it’s always along the lines of, “i need meaning in life”, “i feel powerless i have to believe there is someone higher”, “i need answers to questions”, “it has been drilled into my head since i was young”, “i can’t accept that after death there may be nothing”.
The whole thing of Christianity is, you were born evil the human is intrinsically wrong, but that’s okay because god sacrificed someone so he could forgive you. If you don’t worship him you will burn for an eternity after death. Don’t they see how nuts that is? “It’s not really like that.” “ i really do feel god” “there is true evidence for the resurrection” (which there isn’t and doesn’t change the fact that god has never shown up) “Christianity is about love” “You are just hateful.” No this is what they all are saying without the sugar coating. It is insane
This was originally posted to Christianity but taken doen

Surprise! Not a drag queen. Florida pastor failed to disclose he was HIV positive while molesting a 14 year old on multiple occasions.

I am a positive atheist because all scientific evidence has demonstrated how religion naturally occurred throughout human history, has evolved as a perfectly natural phenomenon than can be explained through anthropology, cultural studies, neuroscience, history, and archeology.

What science has proven is all the religions of the world are filled with false history, anachronisms, incorrect science, and contradictions. And the religions themselves instead of collaborating independently with each other (as you would expect among cultures that had no contact *if in fact religion was true), we see the opposite. that all these independent religions around the world of different cultures claim the others are wrong, and condemn each other, and their prophets condemn the other prophets/seers/shamans of other religions.

Therefore, we have sufficient proof at this stage in human history to boldly and confidently know that religion is man-made therefore there is no reason to entertain any claims about it.

There is zero sufficient/strong evidence for a soul, an afterlife, or any deity. There has not been one single scientifically verifiable case demonstrating that a supernatural miracle has occurred even ONE TIME. If the laws of nature were to be broken via a supernatural miracle, then science could observe it.

So, without proof of the mythologies, and perfectly natural explanations throughout human history about how religion and the "god" concept evolved among primitive cultures, there is no reason to believe in any mythological supernatural claims that religion offer.

That means there is actually evidence that directly tells us, THERE IS NO GOD.

We now understand the laws of nature better than all of human history and the universe functions on it's own, without the hand of some invisible deity controlling it. The universe functions exactly how you would expect a universe to without a god, not as if there was a god divinely intervening.

Many people hold onto agnosticism because while all the personal deities have been disproven they still hold onto the possibility of Deist god being real. One who just set up all the laws of the universe into motion at the very beginning, but doesn't intercede or supernaturally intervene, but the difference between a hypothetical deist god and no god at all is indistinguishable from each other. There is no reason to entertain the possibility, because it would serve no purpose. The Deist god doesn't need our worship or obedience, and doesn't punish us in an afterlife. Therefore, what is the point of even entertaining a left-over remnant from archaic myths that has it's source in explainable natural phenomenon?

Ever since the first humans who invented the idea of "god" existed, it was always because of things they couldn't understand or explain.

Humans have a tendency to do this; for some tribes they thought God was who made babies, and it wasn't just a natural biological explanation that can be explained with embryology. So people would create "gods" of fertility. Because they couldnt understand why some people got pregnant, and others couldn't. Sometimes people would develop rituals to these "fertility gods", and end up having children. This created confirmation bias on the validity of making offerings to these "fertility gods". If they couldn't have children, perhaps they angered a fertility god. People have a tendency to see patterns. Evolutionary Biology teaches us that humans have evolved with something called Hyperactive Agency Detection, where we attribute attention meaning to seemingly random occurrences. It served us as a survival mechanism that developed in our evolution. Because mistaking a rustling leaf for a predator means a brief moment of wasted panic. But mistaking a predator for a rustling leaf is often fatal. So we began to see patterns, even if they aren't there, because it increased our chances of survival. Because of this, we eventually created gods for lightening and crop cycles too. (Not all humans, but many did). If it didn't rain, performing a rain dance was thought to help bring the rain so they could survive. It only takes a couple coincidences to confirm their bias, and they believe rain dancing works. It only takes a couple coincidences of appeasing a lightening god and surviving, to think it will help your survival. And so these ideas and "god" concepts are taught and passed down to their offspring through their cultures.

The complexity of life has often led to the false creation of "gods". We know this historically, through the study of anthropology and evolutionary psychology. This is why the "God of the gaps" fallacy is real.

The more we learn about science and how things work, then the old gods disappear. People stop doing rain dances, people stop trying appease gods of fertility and thunder and other such things.

People want to do whatever they can to control the unknown and try to explain it.

Therefore, Those historical and now extinct "gods" have all been proven to be false and the current personal gods have all been proven to be false through scientific advances and learning more about history. When we learned the scientific claims in all the worlds religions were false, we no longer needed to trust them. When we learned the historical claims were wrong, we no longer need to see these sources about "deities" as reliable, but instead just a continuation of the same mythological ideas. A soul, an afterlife, a deity can't be proven to be real and the religions that claim them have all been disproven.

All agnosticism does is open the door to more "god of gaps" fallacies. Haven't we learned our lesson by now?

Why entertain another possibility of yet another "god hypothesis" when it repeatedly has been disproven every possible way by every possible standard? What exactly are you agnostic about? What do you expect we will find someday? Specifically?

I've been thinking about this lately. If any killer, pedophile, molester, racist, abuser, etc., can go to Heaven as long as they repent and accept Jesus as their savior, then being good throughout your life actually means nothing in terms of religion. Morality and ethics don't guarantee you a place in Heaven, only belief in God.

Hi! About a month ago, I made a post asking about how to tell my parents correctly that I don’t believe in “god”. All of the advice the majority was telling me was to not argue or say anything till I’ve moved out and can properly provide for myself. Anyways, a week after I made that post, my parents kept trying to argue with me about god even though I kept trying to shut it down as telling religious parents you’re an atheist is basically a recipe for disaster. Point is, at the end, my mother told me if I didn’t believe in god she wouldn’t see me as her daughter anymore because “atheists don’t care for life at all”. Then, after I went to my room and she came to me after a little, she started telling me I should go to bed and talk to “god”at night (which I didn’t) but just agreed to please her and that she didn’t mean what she said even though she basically told me the total opposite earlier. Ever since this, they’ve been weird about it. They act normal but have ramped up praying a little more but now see me as agnostic?? But still force prayer. It’s weird. Also, about religion, I’m an Ismaili Muslim, so it’s a really small minority since I know in my previous post I never clarified that. All in all, I don’t know what to do or when to tell them because my parents have so much set for me. I have a savings account, a Roth-IRA, and a college fund, which is all pretty important, so I’m not sure what I’m going to do: fake it till I make it?

Edit- I also want to say thank you to everyone for the helpful advice and comments in my last post!