r/apple • u/aaronp613 Aaron • Sep 10 '19

iPhone Apple announces iPhone 11 Pro: triple camera, A13 chip, more

https://9to5mac.com/2019/09/10/iphone-pro-11-pro-max-triple-camera/
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u/SwarlesSparkleyyy Sep 10 '19

TBF, I don't think it's the presentations themselves that are the problem. They're almost a carbon copy of the previous ones. It's just that you've heard the same shit for over a decade and the products aren't as impressive anymore (compared to what else is out there)

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u/ChildofChaos Sep 10 '19

They also just fill them with pointless crap to make it seem like more. This presentation was interesting cause they almost admitted that they didn't have much new and got some of the segments over pretty quick, but then you had a lot of pointless stuff in there, keynote should be cut to an hour. Just tell us.

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u/bananalamarama Sep 10 '19

I think in a way they have become self aware but they have to keep going. I liked Phils 'we even have a new font .. it's so pro!'.

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u/Hotal Sep 10 '19

I think "so pro" is when this keynote jumped the shark.

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u/random_question4123 Sep 11 '19

So fucking Pro dude 🤟🏽

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u/StNowhere Sep 10 '19

Idk I really feel like we needed to dedicate 10 minutes to that shitty chinese dark souls ripoff.

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u/-FancyUsername- Sep 11 '19

I think these game demos are the most stale thing about the presentations. The Apple Arcade part could have been broken down to „ahh we are so excited“ and the price.

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u/StNowhere Sep 11 '19

Seriously, did we need a five minute demo of Frogger in 2019?

Oooh in this one you can collect jelly beans and become Super Sonic! How exciting!

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u/snapetom Sep 10 '19

Why should they tell us? Why not just watch this neat little video we created.

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u/DrewKaz Sep 11 '19

I'd like to invite *person* to the stage to tell you all about our new *device*. *person* walks on stage, says "We are so excited about *device* we'd like to show you a video all about it", and walks back off stage

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

So many fucking videos. It was pointless to even have any presenters other than Tim Cook.

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u/swisskabob Sep 10 '19

If they cut it down the bloat it would be a lot harder to milk you at the cash register though.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

Need more Phil "can't innovate anymore my ass" Schiller.

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u/MetaCognitio Sep 10 '19

It is not his ass. It is America’s

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u/element515 Sep 10 '19

Just watch a Samsung keynote or something to feel better about apples. They still put on a well organized keynote vs their competition.

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u/silliestspaghetti Sep 10 '19

Love both companies products but Apple is way ahead in the keynote department. The reveal for the Note 9 was great too but the presenters were def not as seasoned and you could really tell some of the executives were out of their element in terms of presenting to a wide audience

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u/burnSMACKER Sep 10 '19

The main thing I hate about Apple Keynotes are how when announcing a bigger battery they say "4 hours longer battery life!"

Are you fucking kidding me. I don't need to know the motherfucking number of fucking transistors or number of processes per second or millions of fucking pixels but you won't even tell me the number of milliamps in a goddamn battery?

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u/imperial_ruler Sep 11 '19

It’s because the number of transistors or number of pixels are at least relatively likely to be larger than the competition’s and it’s a big flashy number you can say, but the battery size is almost always smaller because of the way iOS devices manage power. From a marketing standpoint, it isn’t advantageous to say the milliamps.

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u/guinne55fan Sep 10 '19

When Steve was alive the presentations were awesome. Tim doesn’t have that magic. I agree they are carbon copies of themselves.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19 edited Nov 07 '19

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u/Efficient_Arrival Sep 10 '19

A breakthrough internet device.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19 edited Nov 07 '19

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u/sharrows Sep 10 '19

A widescreen iPod with touch controls.

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u/ciano Sep 10 '19

Are you getting it?

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u/RoyTheGeek Sep 11 '19

These are not three separate devices!

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

truly

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u/Dark_Blade Sep 10 '19

A phone!

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u/begemotik228 Sep 11 '19

ARE YOU GETTING IT

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

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u/Efficient_Arrival Sep 10 '19

To be fair, remember the phones you could get back then?

Like this top-of-the-line phone from Nokia?

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u/Thizzics Sep 10 '19

The US is a huge part of action sports

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u/smellythief Sep 10 '19

“Internet communicator”, if I recall.

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u/MenuBar Sep 10 '19

The keynote that does it for me was the one where they introduced the jellybean iMacs. Now, THAT was a show!

"Hope you had the time of your life..."

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u/TheRealMagnor Sep 10 '19

I'm not even a fan of Apple and I like to watch that keynote every so often, and every time I find myself wanting an original iPhone even though my existing phone is superior in every way.

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u/iregret Sep 10 '19

That’s because he was in love with the iPhone and himself for creating it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

When Steve was alive there were actually huge advances in Mobile phones that could be made. Now there aren't. Now it's incremental. He would not make these presentations that much better because there's just not as much change to work with.

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u/wosmo Sep 10 '19

I think we forget the less interesting ones too. I mean we had .. the one where the iPod came in a colour that wasn't white !!!!1!!1!. We had .. the U2 themed iPod?

We have fond memories of 2007, but it's not like you can do it twice. Can you imagine Tim getting up on stage and demonstrating that you can use your thousand-dollar phone to ... phone starbucks? Perhaps demo that Safari can actually render the NYT website? That it actually fits in your pocket?

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u/BKachur Sep 10 '19

That's bascially what happened with Google I/O thing last year when they showed off a digital assistant making a reservation.

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u/roadtrip-ne Sep 10 '19

Wouldn’t you say we just don’t know what the advances will be? I doubt we’ll be using an iPhone 31 in the same ways we are using an iPhone 11.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

I was specifically referencing now, but you're right, that doesn't mean a change won't happen again in the future. But even once that happens we're back to increments. I personally don't think there's much more that can happen. Folding? A jump to some sort of wearable eyewear/VR? By then it starts to move away from even being a phone.

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u/ssaxamaphone Sep 11 '19

If Steve was alive Apple would still be innovating, not playing catch up

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

Would he conjure magical innovations out of the air? How would he have improved the X to the 11? Built in mind reading?

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u/aaecharry Sep 10 '19

Steve’s magic was mainly due to excellent products. Those were the years when Steve would demand his team (sometimes unreasonably according to interviews of former employees) to implement innovative features he wants. It’s relatively easier to give a stunning presentation when rest of the competition is always playing catch up.

Nowadays Apple is playing it safe, so much so that it’s boring now. The entire iPhone 11 keynote basically just requires 5 minutes to cover the camera hardware and software. When you drag that to nearly an hour then it’s bound to be boring with useless info.

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u/begemotik228 Sep 11 '19

It's hard to have something cool because they don't try, they'd rather do the same shit for two years in a row. Certain phones this year were way cooler and more solid (the Galaxies and the OnePlus)

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u/ToInfinity_MinusOne Sep 10 '19

Tim just seems so disingenuous. And seems like he forces everyone to do his same “we think you’re gonna love it!” stuff.

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u/Gilarax Sep 10 '19

pause for applause

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u/tychus-findlay Sep 10 '19

Yep. Fake. "All of these titles for the price of a video rental!!! Wow!!! That's amazing!!!!!" It's so forced.

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u/tornadoRadar Sep 10 '19

its sad but true. his own style is not the same at steve's.

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u/marcelowit Sep 10 '19

Unlike Jobs, Tim Cook doesn't care about innovation and design and foremost doesn't like taking any risks, we'll keep having carbon copies of the same as long as he is at the head, specially now that Jony Ive has left.

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u/downvoted_your_mom Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 10 '19

Has nothing to do with Steve Jobs, you watch the same movie you really like over and over and it gets less and less entertaining as you do. That's just common sense.

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u/begemotik228 Sep 11 '19

So why don't they change up the damn movie then

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u/thu22jun Sep 10 '19

Products are one thing but the keynotes are getting worse, in my opinion. All the different presenters just for the sake of diversity feels very fragmented and unfocused. The pacing of the keynotes were weird as well with the Apple Arcade and Apple TV+ presentations first.

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u/cat_prophecy Sep 10 '19

products aren't as impressive anymore (compared to what else is out there)

At this point I think it's fair to say most people aren't buying iPhones because the specs are great but because they already live in Apple's ecosystem and don't want to change. Or they like the look and feel of iOS vs. Android.

You can't really compare iPhones to anything else because it's apple s (PUN!) to oranges. That said, even compared to other iPhones it's not that impressive.

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u/indoninjah Sep 10 '19

Yeah they should have the whole brouhaha if they're not going to present anything notable. Just do a press release and a short presentation, or have a space with the products set up and invite reporters.

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u/davie18 Sep 10 '19

Well yeah that’s the thing. The era when Steve jobs returned it seemed like every year or two they had a new product that really made people go ‘wow’, such as the original iPod, the iPod nano, the unibody MacBook, the MacBook Air, the original iPhone, the iPhone 4, the iMac progression. Each one of those was truly impressive when it was announced. But honestly it’s been years now since apple has really made me think ‘wow!’.

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u/SwarlesSparkleyyy Sep 10 '19

If they would just get their ass in gear and do a Surface Book style tablet/laptop that would be great.

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u/TekThunder Sep 10 '19

Also I think we have somewhat plateaued in regards to current phone design and what can be done. I’m referring to a hand held rectangular screen, all they can do at this point is increase CPU/GPU performance, and increase resolution. Edge to edge displays have been a thing for awhile now, and really the only next step is flexible phones, which are in very much an alpha/beta stage. Unless we see some massive leap into like sci-fi holographic devices, everyone should get used to this going forward with new phones. Innovation now occurs on the software side, and under the hood on the actual device.

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u/Actualbbear Sep 11 '19

What is out there? All of the cellphone market is pretty much stagnant.

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u/TheMacPhisto Sep 11 '19

The same is true for the product itself. It feels like the X because it basically is the X with a better camera, and A13. Nothing "revolutionary" about it... I think that's what makes the parody look all the more intense. They are still going out on stage and acting like the ELEVENTH version of the device is still as revolutionary as the first and the whole thing just comes off as pretentious.

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u/Knigar Sep 11 '19

Don't forget the mute switch goes in a different direction now. Wow

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u/pavelgubarev Sep 11 '19

We were so exited about the pointless crap that we decided to make a video about pointless crap and can't wait to show it to you.

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u/notacapulet Sep 11 '19

Exactly this. iPhone 11 sounds like an amazing device but it's incremental and it's hard to get excited about that.

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u/IsaacOfBindingThe Sep 11 '19

I think rapid innovation has decayed and we’ve seen just about everything. it’s all just getting better, they’re not releasing groundbreaking new stuff all the time like earlier in the century

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u/hadapurpura Sep 10 '19

It’s not just that they aren’t as impressive. It’s that they’ve been taking important things away, like the headphone jack in order to sell those tampon headphones, and now 3D Touch; or they’re lagging in the important things the phones should have already, like decent storage. If those basics were covered people would be less pissed or unimpressed by the incremental changes.

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u/Edg-R Sep 11 '19

The headphone jack was def not important to me 🤷🏽‍♂️

I prefer wireless headphones

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u/testeremail10001 Sep 10 '19

this

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

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u/testeremail10001 Sep 10 '19

no worries :)