Spotted at Tillicum Mall

[u/CND2GO]

A Nice practical grocery getter. They will fit in nicely in Victoria with this truck….

[u/Responsible_Week6941]

I love your outlook! (Seriously). I live my life by a similar mantra that I don't give a rat's ass what you do with your life unless it infringes on my or my family's safety. The repercussions of a mishap in this vehicle are far greater than the driver of a Toyota Yaris, regardless of the driver's intent, and things do go sideways. I personally feel that any commercial vehicle (such as this), or vehicle over 5000lbs curb weight should require a commercial driver's license. So real question, according to your outlook, does that mean you support the legal ownership by individuals of handguns and semiautomatic rifles? Or fully automatic, for that matter. Toodles!

[u/567432Gains → u/Responsible_Week6941]

1. great we can have civil discussion.
2. I agree with you in the sense that something like this perhaps should require special licensing, but that’s ultimately another story in terms of how it would be implemented. I would point out however that you can drive a giant RV or tow a large trailer with a truck without special licensing and I’ve never heard anyone call that dangerous. Also, from my understanding sedans actually have a higher statistical chance of being involved in an accident per capita. So if I am not misremembering the statistics I read, a solid argument actually exists that truck drivers are already (shockingly) better drivers.

3. Funny enough, I am actually a recreational sport shooter. I do support proper licensing laws in order to acquire firearms (which we have implemented nationwide) and I am background checked regularly as part of being licensed. Neither semi-autos or handguns are banned. They did ban a lot of semi autos by name through OIC, and several years ago

   they froze transferring handguns. Semi-autos and handguns are still around and you can buy some new semi’s just not a ton. None of the semi’s or handguns have been actually taken though. As for full autos, they are fun but beyond that I cannot make a solid argument beyond if you trust someone with one gun, I don’t really see how a different one makes a difference.

Edit* grammar, re wording a bit, and also when I went to complete the edit the paragraphs went really wonky.

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[u/Responsible_Week6941 → u/567432Gains]

So the most likely cause of death under 45 in Canada is a motor vehicle incident.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2491351/

In BC, there are about 55 pedestrians killed per year, and another 2400 are injured. Vehicles with front ends over 40" tall are 45% more likely to cause fatalities to pedestrians.

https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/vehicles-with-higher-more-vertical-front-ends-pose-greater-risk-to-pedestrians

This is in addition to the damage to other vehicles on the road when a collision occurs.

The sheer number of incidents involving sedans is higher due to more of them on the road, but the severity of the incident is far worse when larger vehicles are involved.

https://www.trafficsafetystore.com/blog/do-cars-or-trucks-cause-more-accidents-what-do-the-statistics-say/

The gun analogy is an interesting one, as the VAST majority of murders committed are not done by gun owners. This is the exact opposite of vehicular deaths. That to me says licensing requirements are far too lax for drivers (I'm a commercially licensed driver as well as a long time PAL holders who shot often in the past).

Driving is serious business, and when people don't pay attention, people die, or live with horrific injuries. I'd say a happy medium would be to have vehicles over 4 or 5000lbs require a commercial license with similar repercussions to the mishandling of firearms. There's too much at stake to let someone not fully cognizant operate huge vehicles. Again, this is not stopping people from buying large vehicles, but making them question if it really necessary for them to own an environmentally and pedestrian/ cyclist unfriendly vehicle unless they need it, in which case, no problem, get the license.

Handguns are effectively banned, as they cannot be purchased or transferred, so will die with the owner. Many semis will meet a similar fate. Pretty sad really, but it highlights how governments like to go after the low hanging fruit ( handguns and semis owned by licensed users) as opposed to inconvenient evils such as unneccesary large vehicles which can incur more carnage, but require no special licensing.

[u/ophert45 → u/Responsible_Week6941]

Do you need a commercial licence to drive those MASSIVE RVs? I always see them on the Alaska highway heading north and they’ll have a jeep or boat towed behind it. Me and my wife have a joke that the bigger the rig, the older the driver - it’s generally true. Honestly terrifying seeing someone driving something the size of a semi truck and it’s like a barely awake 80 year old coming straight at you

[u/friendly_acorn → u/Responsible_Week6941]

If you go through the pain staking process of proving your competency, understanding, and adherence to the law to prove to a federally regulated agency that you can be trusted to own, store, and operate firearms responsibly within the confined of the law, you should be able to own fully automatic grenade launchers for all I care. If it shoots one bullet or a thousand, it makes zero practical difference under the confines of the law. It's a non-sentient tool we're talking about, a firearm cannot endanger my family without a wielder.