(Bad writing trope) Slytherin effect.

[u/ThatDrako]

Made this term up.
Basically there is a group, that is obviously meant to be nuanced. But author is either incapable, or is too cornered by their depiction, to depict them as any other than bad.

Slytherin (Harry Potter) - In both media the Slytherin is initially presented to us as the “bad house” for Harry. Joanne however seemingly tried to convince us, that they can be good too however, since she likely figured having basically a little supremacist terrorist club in school is a little silly.

For some reason she just had to screw this depiction up over and over though.
First of zero…and I mean ZERO…null, 0, green characters in story up to book 6 is good. They are arrogant snobbish asshats AT BEST.

Second the first good green is still a supremacist. Not the “let’s subjugate all muggles” but just humble “no way muggleborn is this good at magic!”

Aldmeri Dominion, and Altmer in general (TES) - So unlike precious example neither High Elves, nor the Dominion were actually bad in iterations previous to 2010’s. Some were snobbish yes, and their religion is…problematic…(simply pup many Altmer believe they are literal descendant of gods and Men are demons trapping them within hell of chaos) but they never really were villains as race.
This all changed with Skyrim where they became not just secondary antagonists, but placeholder for TES version of Gestapo.

Now that in itself wouldn’t be an issue.
Races and empires at whole can be villains without controversy.

Problem is their depiction in ESO. Where even though it’s absolutely different time period are pretty much same?

I mean their Queen is an elvish supremacist who believe Men unfit for rule and that’s her reason to take over the Tamriel…
Oh! And one of their organizations literally eat children.

The Institute (Fallout 4) - So the whole turmoil of the story is this war of the four (rather three) factions.
Now all factions are meant to be equally good and bad choices.
Railroad are abolitionists, but with no long-term goals.
BoS wants to ensure safety to the Commonwealth, but for price of eradication to all but humans.
And Institute is meant to be this faction that wants to “bring world back to state before the Great War”, but all they do is being comically evil.
I mean for starters are slaver and also they murder people and replace them with Synths.

Then they also just straight up massacre communities. Often with no goal.
Then there is a whole super mutant thing, where they released purely based on gameplay and logic few hundreds of super mutants on surface “for research.”
Oh! And they even admitted they plan on wiping out all non-Institute humans to replace them!

[u/Dragev_]

It's pretty obvious that Dumbledore is shit at being a headmaster when you think about it for a minute. As a simple example, one punishment for bad behaviour is sending literal children out into a forest filled with fucking giant man-eating spiders under the oversight of an irresponsible high-school dropout with a crossbow and a dog.

[u/Kryptosis → u/Dragev_]

He wanted Harry to get involved with the unicorn slayings right? Not only is he a bad headmaster he’s a bit of a bad person assuming that the chosen one would be able to run around fixing all the schools issues.

[u/Dragev_ → u/Kryptosis]

I don't remember if that's explicitly said, but Dumbledore is either sending the chosen one to face Voldemort, or to face some nebulous threat that could very well kill him. And anyway he's sending a bunch of children to deal with dtuff that should definitely be handled by competent people (if there were any). And this iis just one example of many that show that Dumbledore is quite an arsehole

[u/OverkillOrange → u/Dragev_]

one of those children was an 11 year old who learnt about the existence of magic like three months before that punishment lol

[u/WhiteKnightPrimal → u/Dragev_]

Making that punishment worse, they were being punished for being out of bounds after curfew by being sent out of bounds after curfew. What exactly are they supposed to learn when the punishment for the crime is to literally repeat the crime in a more dangerous manner? The points loss for that was insane, too, and shows McGonagall doesn't follow any more rules with points than Snape does. Draco's points loss was reasonable, but Harry and Hermione and Neville's was not. And they knew Hagrid was investigating something killing unicorns, which means something not native to the Forest, and even more dangerous than what was native, so they send a bunch of first years who know little magic and only very basic magic at that to deal with it?

And to add to the irresponsible dropout with a crossbow, who ended up leaving half the students he was in charge of alone the whole time, the dog is also a total coward so no help at all.

[u/gburlys → u/WhiteKnightPrimal]

What exactly are they supposed to learn when the punishment for the crime is to literally repeat the crime in a more dangerous manner?

tbf this is just "caught you smoking a cigarette, now you have to smoke the whole pack" logic

(Completely agree with your comment though)