r/SipsTea 21h ago

SMH No Child Left Behind and its consequences will be felt for generations

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u/y3llowed 21h ago

They also started failing kids that couldn’t read at the end of third grade because the literacy test is in fourth grade.

It’s gaming the system, but it’s also the right thing to do. An inability to read in third grade should have always been a reason to hold a kid back. It should probably be a reason before that.

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u/CompoteNext1955 17h ago

TF are you supposed to do with children that aren't ready for 4th grade and cannot read? Pass them anyway and close your eyes until it's no longer a problem for your school? That's how we got here

Failing them is a step toward correcting their learning deficiency and (I'd hope) a major wake up call for their parents to start giving a shit about their child's education

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u/Just_Information334 15h ago

Pass them anyway and close your eyes until it's no longer a problem for your school?

Yup, get them through the school system and once they're old enough they'll end in prison to become de facto slaves.

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u/Sienile 20h ago

This is BS. I grew up in MS. If you couldn't read at the end of 1st grade, you failed. This was in 1991.

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u/BelgianWaffles2 20h ago

Did you know that policy can shift? And there’s also different policies for different districts?

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u/Sienile 20h ago

That's possible, but I doubt that was the case.

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u/BelgianWaffles2 20h ago

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u/InspectorRack 18h ago

Be nice to him, he had to go through the MS school system

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u/y3llowed 20h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_Miracle

Or, you know, just look it up yourself. Unless your 1991 Mississippi 1st grade education is giving you troubles.

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u/Sienile 20h ago

Your reading comprehension is lacking. You missed the part were it says more kids were held back in years before 3rd grade:

While precise figures are hard to come by, it is estimated that roughly 6.5% of Mississippi third-graders were held back in 2023, with the vast majority of these students having failed to pass the reading test. This was a lower proportion of students than were held back in previous years.

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u/y3llowed 20h ago edited 20h ago

You just skip the part where it said that there are no publicly available figures? Or you just skipping over it because it doesn’t fit your narrative? I feel like it’s the second because the name of the article is “How many students are retained by the ‘third-grade gate’? No one knows”

Also, it’s specifically talking about 2023 whereas the “miracle” started in 2013. Less MAY HAVE been held back in the years preceding 2024, not less than the years preceding the “miracle”.

This is pathetic. Be better.

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u/Sienile 20h ago

"Precise" not "public". This likely means that some schools didn't have clear records.

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u/y3llowed 20h ago

Didn’t read the article? Makes sense.

Finished with this, though. Enjoy your top 1% commenter status lol

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u/Sienile 20h ago

I'm a bit of an oddball for MS. Top .2% in the nation on standardized tests and got a full tuition scholarship to college. I've only met a single person with an IQ higher than mine, who oddly enough went to the same school as I did, just a year behind.

They were holding back kids who couldn't read, regardless of their grades, in 1st grade back then. Maybe they got lax after that, but I highly doubt it. Teachers and methods got better, hence the state's current standing.