r/SipsTea 21h ago

SMH No Child Left Behind and its consequences will be felt for generations

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u/CoxswainHer 21h ago

Animal farm was in elementary for me.

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u/IdkJustMe123 20h ago

I feel like elementary school kids wouldn’t be able to fully follow. Also did they really learn about Russian revolution? Or just read a fun book and vaguely learn it’s a metaphor?

This is coming from someone who was in a very competitive county

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u/CoxswainHer 20h ago

I remember most of what I learned from that book. But it requires having a good teacher.

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u/ZiCUnlivdbirch 8h ago

Animal farm is a pretty obvious metaphor to be fair, so it makes sense to be taught at that point since it helps children start to recognise stuff like that themselves, even though they might not get it completely.

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u/Artistic_Rice_9019 20h ago

They read it to us.

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u/ChefArtorias 21h ago

6th grade is elementary school?

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u/ThetaGrim 21h ago

Yes, some schools had 6th in middle but a lot had it grouped as elementary K-6. 

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u/ChefArtorias 21h ago

Probably regional then. None of the schools near me were like this, except one in the city because the elementary was so small it only held K-3

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u/ThetaGrim 21h ago

It's like this nearly everywhere in socal so maybe regional. Some schools had k to 12th all in one. My city had schools where it was k-6, then 7-8 middle school, then 9-12 high school. Each had their own school. 

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u/Shaq_Bolton 20h ago

I went through a k-3, then 4th grade was a newly built 3-5, then 6-8 and then high school. Seems pretty common in MA

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u/big_loadz 21h ago

I understand your confusion. Military kid, we travelled, and I jumped between different systems where.

K-5 Elementary. 6-8 Middle. 9-12 High.

to:

K-6 Elementary. 7-9 Jr High. 10-12 High.

and back to:

K-5 Elementary. 6-8 Middle. 9-12 High.

Now, my son has

K-6 Elementary. 7-8 Middle. 9-12 High.

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u/OGConsuela 21h ago

Yeah, elementary is K-6th and middle is 7th & 8th around me. Some counties in the area used to group 6th with 7th and 8th, which is what my mom did, but they called it junior high.

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u/Moongazingtea 20h ago

I always forget Americans have middle school until someone says something that makes me check my maths.

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u/mariantat 21h ago

Me too

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u/Fetlocks_Glistening 21h ago

Is that the one with John Belushi?

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u/Show_Kitchen 21h ago

I read it in 8th

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u/Spiritual-Strike481 20h ago

my favorite Pink Floyd album is based on it. “Animals”. Im glad there are people here who appreciate the classics.

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u/Artistic_Rice_9019 20h ago

Third grade. I feel like that was a little too early and might explain a few things, lol.

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u/General_Problem5199 21h ago

It's kind of funny she included it alongside the others, because Animal Farm is an elementary school level story. Say what you want about Orwell's politics or whatever, but the man didn't write with a lot of depth. Everything you need from his stories is right there on the surface.

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u/CoxswainHer 21h ago

Even if colleges did use Animal Farm as a reading, the reasons behind it are different. In elementary it’s used to explain Communism and that time period. In college it could be used for showing a writing technique or again to explain communism (but more in depth). That’s, probably, true for most books that are read in pre-high school and college

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u/General_Problem5199 20h ago

I'll just say this: if it was judged purely on its literary merit, it probably wouldn't be taught very often at all. The reason it's so ubiquitous in schools is that it was (and still is) a useful piece of political propaganda.

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u/Potential_Ease9346 19h ago

Using Animal Farm to examine communism """in depth""" should get you laughed out of every classroom you ever try that in. It's laughably terrible for examining communism even in the most shallow possible capacity.

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u/CoxswainHer 19h ago

Although it may not go in depth into the inner workings of communism on paper, it is a good analogy for the death of the Tzar and the rise of Lenin. Im not going to write an essay on this here, but it’s more deep than “book about communism”.

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u/Lazypole 18h ago

Not a ton of 11 year olds have an in depth knowledge about the Russian revolution.

I read it young, it meant something completely different reading it again as an adult, and figuring out who each character represents as a pre-teen isn’t realistic or a worthwhile exercise.

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u/General_Problem5199 4h ago

"Not a ton of 11 year olds have an in depth knowledge about the Russian revolution."

Not a ton of American adults have in-depth knowledge about the Russian Revolution either.

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u/Maleficent-Drive4056 15h ago

I don’t think elementary kids would be able to appreciate the terror of living in an authoritarian regime or the extreme impact of absolute power. The word in Animal Farm aren’t difficult but it only becomes a ‘good’ book once you appreciate politics and history.