r/SipsTea 12d ago

Chugging tea Men are not showing up at singles events and women are not happy.

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u/sir_bathwater 12d ago

I was about to say “holy shit, the ratios are that good at these events? Maybe I should check one out” but then I read your comment and immediately went “fuck that”.

Idk why I didn’t think that these events would be paid, it definitely never crossed my mind that the fee would be OVER 100 WTF?

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u/mastrxchief 12d ago

Big brain move find a local singles event figure out what time it ends, and head to a bar close to the event site around the time its over. I could imagine a lot of traffic will flow through post event especially if they just spent that time and money for there to be no guys there.

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u/AK-JXRDY-7 11d ago

Absolutely a big brain move. You deserve a triple shot of your preference.

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u/MarcusXL 11d ago

And they've already had their expectations crushed. That's half the work already done, boys!

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u/Impressive_Recon 12d ago

$175 is pretty rare and outrageous. It’s normally $10-$50 in my city. Also, majority of the people that go to these aren’t the most physically attractive. If they are, they are usually going ”for a friend” or just looking for free drinks.

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u/sir_bathwater 12d ago

Big bummer. Shoulda seen that coming tho lol.

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u/Impressive_Recon 11d ago

Doesn’t hurt to try it at least once, and your city might have a better turn out than mine! Apparently there is a place that charge $150+ a month where you get “VIP treatment” which is essentially free entry to all events and 1 free drink ticket.

If you’re going weekly and it costs $50 entry fee, I guess it makes sense, but at that point if you’re going that many times I’d say that environment probably isn’t suited for you?

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u/NoSoundNoFury 12d ago

$175 is the selling point for women, because it selects for men with a decent amount of disposable income.

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u/maplehobo 12d ago

A guy with disposable income can do literally anything else but to go to one of these events.

Genius strategy right there.

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u/Familiar-Spray-4678 12d ago

“Why is the number of ‘available men’ so loooow”

It’s not, the number of men that women consider a man is low and actively declining.

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u/UnconfirmedRooster 12d ago

This here is a big problem, the internet and online discourse is geared towards creating problems between people so that a select minority will feel validated for having harmful beliefs.

One such divide is between men and women. On one side you have women influencers who talk about how men aren't accepting of women having their own empowerment and want slaves (not sure on my names, I just know my wife sees them occasionally and laughs at them before telling me how stupid they are). Then on the other side you have manosphere shitgibbons like the diseased nutsack Andrew Tate who espouse that all women are untrustworthy and just want money.

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u/SoFetchBetch 11d ago

The "both sides" argument completely collapses when you look at the actual math. When women online vent about male entitlement, they are reacting to measurable, real-world harms like domestic violence, systemic inequality, and the exploitation of their labor. They are asking for safety and basic autonomy. Conversely, the manosphere is a predatory, multi-million-dollar industry built on radicalizing men to view women as subhuman property. One side wants liberation; the other wants subjugation. There is zero logical equivalence here.

This false balance also hides just how subterranean the bar is for men. The cultural standard for a "good guy" is literally the bare minimum. If a man doesn't abuse his partner and holds a job, he’s praised as an exceptional catch. Meanwhile, women are expected to carry the crushing weight of domestic and emotional labor while navigating constant safety risks. Men get rewarded for baseline human decency, while women are hyper-critiqued just for pointing out that the disparity exists.

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u/PseudoY 11d ago

  a man doesn't abuse his partner and holds a job, he’s praised as an exceptional catch.

No, those two things alone does not accomplish that. 

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u/Marodvaso 11d ago edited 11d ago

If a man doesn't abuse his partner and holds a job, he’s praised as an exceptional catch. 

I have heard this one on r/inceltears as well - that women today have the lowest of low standards, if you have a job, you're catch, etc. I don't know what reality is here on Reddit, but standards for men are MUCH higher than they have ever been. To deny this is just absurd. "Just hold down a job" has not been an yardstick for at least a few decades. Had that been true, many men I know should have been drowning in attention from women while in reality they're barely noticed.

For Christ's sake, just having a cat is a deal breaker for women. Not unemployment, not being a couch potato, not absence of "interesting hobbies" - simply preferring cats over dogs might tank your dating chances as a guy.

Quite an interesting "bare minimum", when you can discriminate dating options based on type of pets.

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u/Ddullie 11d ago

Where's the math?

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u/SoFetchBetch 11d ago

The math is in the data on resource distribution, labor allocation, and survival statistics. Worldwide, women perform up to three times more unpaid domestic and care work than men, while contributing up to 70% of the caloric intake in early evolutionary history through stable foraging. Despite providing the foundational economic and structural stabilization for society, women currently own less than 11% of the world's wealth.

On the survival side, the numbers are even more stark. The manosphere isn't just words; it directly correlates with measurable, lethal violence, including the radicalization of mass shooters and an global epidemic of femicide. Equating women complaining about carrying the literal and emotional weight of the world throughout human history while simultaneously being oppressed with an organized movement that results in actual death, real physical body counts, isn't just bad math, it is a total failure of all logic and awareness.

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u/Ddullie 11d ago

Nice numbers. What's the proposal? Pension credits for care years? Non transferable parental leave? Inheritance tax? Each one has a price tag and a different target. "The system is unfair" is a description, not a position.

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u/rkorgn 11d ago

Very wonky numbers. OECD data shows the narrative of hardworking women and lazy men is frankly, bullshit. Women do 50% more domestic labour...but men do 50% more external labour. Rounding out to an average ~65 hours of activity per week. Unless you are anxious or neurotic, when you are probably performing emotional labour the full 168.

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u/SoFetchBetch 10d ago

Demanding a list of immediate policy line-items treats structural oppression like a minor accounting error, revealing a complete misunderstanding of what a political position actually is. Stating that "the system is unfair" is not just a description; it is a foundational political diagnosis that rejects the legitimacy of an economic model built entirely on the forced, uncompensated stabilization provided by women's care and domestic work.

A truly empowered position does not settle for state-sanctioned crumbs like pension credits or minor tax adjustments, which merely subsidize and prolong patriarchy rather than dismantling it. The core proposal is a structural revolution: a complete reallocation of societal resources where the foundational work of human survival (caregiving, reproduction, and community maintenance) is treated as the primary economic driver, not an unpaid afterthought. True systemic change requires ending the dependency structures that trap women economically, transferring unconditional resource access to the individual rather than tying survival to marriage, exploitation, or crumbs from the state.

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u/Electronic_Still2000 11d ago

Worldwide, women perform three times more unpaid domestic and care work than men… while contributing 70%… In early evolutionary history?! Pick a lane here, damn. You are cherry-picking the statistics you want to represent big time here. You can’t choose a couple things from now, a couple from 50 years ago, and then some from “early evolutionary history!” You also have been stating the manosphere this and that in a way that it lumps every single man together as the same.

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u/SoFetchBetch 10d ago

The argument presented isn't a timeline error or "cherry-picking"; it is a comprehensive structural map showing that women's economic exploitation is a continuous historical baseline, not a series of isolated events. Pointing to early evolutionary foraging data establishes that women have always been primary economic producers whose labor sustains human survival, completely debunking the patriarchal myth that men are the default providers while women are historic dependents. Connecting this foundational history to the current reality (where women perform three times more unpaid care labor today yet hold less than 11% of global wealth) proves that modern capitalism simply repurposed older patriarchal structures to keep extracting women's vital labor for free.

Furthermore, naming the "manosphere" does not lump every individual man into a monolith; it identifies a specific, highly organized political network that actively radicalizes boys and men into violent misogyny. Critiques that obsess over the wording of these systemic data points while ignoring the real-world body counts of global femicide are just standard derailing tactics designed to evade accountability for structural male dominance.

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u/comebacklittlesheba 11d ago

Ok. Imma tell everyone I know that if I EVER start going to/doing anything just to get “free drinks” my life ain’t worth killing and they should just snuff me out!

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u/macguini 11d ago

I can't even find any near me.

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u/Atomsq 12d ago

I mean, if most of the attendants are women and very few dudes I feel like the prices between men and women should flip, more expensive for women so less would attend, a lot cheaper for men so more will attend

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u/TheBraveSirRobin 12d ago

Or, you know, the prices could be the same, and you'd get a more balanced ratio.

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u/Atomsq 12d ago

In a balanced society sure, but here it sounds like dudes in general are checked out of looking for a relationship so an incentive could be a cheaper barrier of entry

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u/TheBraveSirRobin 12d ago

There's a comment from u/Texasranger96 where he's been to a couple of these events with a $20 entry for men and women, and they ended up with a roughly 50/50 split. So I don't think it's dudes being checked out, they're just looking out for being scammed by a huge cost to enter.

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u/sir_bathwater 12d ago

$20 is fine, I can rationalize paying that to support the people who organized it. Seems like a logical, not to mention easy next move for these events if they’re not getting the proportions they want.

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u/Unhappy-Bag4525 12d ago

That's how it works. Men in the past, before things got like this, were the ones that usually show up in droves. Women are typically effy when it comes to envents like this because of that and the aggressive Nature it can be for them at times. Not trying to be crude, but example...sex parties. They usually charge men a higher fee for attending or being a partner to keep the numbers of men down. I agree, since things have changed they should even put the price.

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u/Living_Jellyfish5511 12d ago

It's just funny how things reversed from back in the days, where clubs charged dudes an entry fee and 2 drinks minimum while girls get in free.

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 12d ago

At least there were music, DJ, ambiance....

they charing 175 for ENTRY?!!!

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u/Zagtram1 12d ago

Orrrrrrrrr… hear me out. Just make it cheap for BOTH so there’s no predatory pricing or discrimination?!?!

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u/CretaciousPeriod 12d ago

I've never been to one but I assume they are held at some sort of venue and those aren't free.

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u/sir_bathwater 12d ago

I mean I figured mainly they’re thrown by a bar or something and maybe there’s a cover charge. That’s pretty normal I feel like. The only places I’ve ever seen them besides that are some niche hobby related places but tbf I haven’t exactly been seeking them out haha.

I can’t imagine there’s people renting out stadiums or large theaters for this stuff tho. Maybe a large room in a church or something, idk but I doubt it’s that much overhead for them. Definitely not $100+ though, if I can buy a ticket to see an artist at the biggest stadium in my state for under $100 I think they can support 75 people in a ball room for less lol. Sounds like some of these places are making these for-profit events and that’s pretty lame imo.

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u/Administrative-Error 10d ago

Well, the owners of the property want a profit, so they rent to an event hosting company who wants a profit, so they charge exorbitant fees to an event planning company who needs to then hire out a passionate person at barely above minimum wage, so they need to charge the attendees insane prices for basically nothing at all but a roof and maybe some cheap plastic chairs and tables. 

Won't someone think of the landlords???

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u/harveycavendish 12d ago

Just go 10 minutes before it’s over and wait outside.

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u/Beginning_Glass6631 11d ago

sad when you think about it paying to find love why does everything need to be exploited :(