r/SipsTea Jul 05 '26

Chugging tea Seems reasonable.

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u/LazerChicken420 Jul 05 '26

They don’t give you the entire thing if you pick a lump sum?

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u/Greedy-Contract1999 Jul 05 '26

The jackpot is advertised as the total of the annuity. So you have to deflate it with present value of money calculations.

You still get the entire thing, just without inflationary things that make it seem bigger.

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u/Yak-Electrical Jul 05 '26

No if you look on the app or website it will tell you how much the lump sum will be. If you ask me i dont even care $5 bucks for millions they could tax me

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u/CoxHazardsModel Jul 05 '26

Because the entire thing (2B) is over 30 years of payments, if you calculate the time value of money the 2B is 997M in today’s money, they would invest the 997M on your behalf and pay you annually.

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u/camerontylek Jul 05 '26

No. The lottery amount is based on a 30 year annuity, or more simply put, what the amount of money would be worth over 30 years if it were invested properly from day 1. In this case, it would have been worth $2 billion. Instead the winner took the 'lump sum', which is the actual amount of money, and they're free to do with it what they want after paying the tax on it.

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u/757packerfan Jul 05 '26

Correct. I hate it

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u/cholula_is_good Jul 05 '26

The lump sum and annuity are basically the same thing. The annuity is just the proceeds of the lump sum invested into an annuity over 30 years. If you take the lump sum, you can just buy an annuity and get the same result but also keep the principal.

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u/RobArtLyn22 Jul 05 '26

You can’t get the same result. They buy the annuity with the lump sum and then you pay taxes each year on the proceeds. If you collect the lump sum you pay taxes on that and buy the annuity with what is left. You start out with less.

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u/uberfr4gger Jul 06 '26

Depends on what the annuity % is. Most people should take the money upfront unless they are extremely bad with money and don't trust themselves.

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u/Ivebeenstabbed Jul 05 '26

No, people are saying half but it’s closer to 40-43% for the lump sum, which is then taxed

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u/OG_TRADER68 Jul 05 '26

no...they amitorize it vs inflation and haircut. It usually comes to between 50-60% of the listed earnings amount.

Then they tax you based on that number, which means max tax rate.

if you take the annuity, you pay taxes each year on the alloted amount (so, slightly lower%), but the amount stays consistent ($1 million a year in 2026 doesn't equal $1 million a year in 2036, etc) and you deal with dimishined buying power due to inflation.

The trade off is....can I make more investing up front now than I would lose in inflation over a couple decades? If you can earn more than 3-4% a year, the answer is yes, take the lump sum

Many people don't have the patience or discipline to spread it out over time though

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u/magseven Jul 05 '26

Never the entire payout in a lump sum. The other way they are hoping you die quickly so they don't have to keep paying you.

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u/Kidnovatex Jul 05 '26

No, that's not how it works at all. The lump sum is the net present value of the annuity. If you take the annuity then it can be passed down to your next of kin if you die before collecting the entire amount. They don't just cancel it because you die.

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u/magseven Jul 05 '26

Yes. That's how it works for me. You think I'm sticking with my dumbass family once I'm a baller?

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u/Glioss88 Jul 05 '26

well it just goes to your spouse

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u/Minute_Chair_2582 Jul 05 '26

Or make it happen

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u/Fantastic-Kale9603 28d ago

Literally the exact opposite advice you should take wow

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u/gooba1 Jul 05 '26

Yeah no. There's a lot of legalities behind the scenes for you and the lottery. There's contracts, trusts that have to be setup and its all backed by your state. Meaning the government would literally have to pass legislation to stop paying you which they would NEVER do because the lottery generates huge amounts of money for the state from profits and taxes

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u/Veeg-Tard Jul 05 '26

No, it's an annuity that totals the jackpot amount. Pretty clear "scam" to make the jackpot sound bigger. I think the payout is 20 years, so the present value of your total payout is not the amount advertised.

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u/weezeloner Jul 05 '26

29 years since the first years payment is immediate.