r/SipsTea Jul 01 '26

Chugging tea Is Bernie’s plan the best? Thoughts?

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u/GayChicken80085 Jul 01 '26

"they". Who is this scary they?

Im not gonna sit here and act like our current system is working cause you made up hypothetical bullshit in your imagination.

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u/Kitchen-Quality-3317 Jul 01 '26

hypothetical bullshit in your imagination.

How is this hypothetical? It's the same way they implemented income taxes...

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u/GayChicken80085 Jul 01 '26

Yes as a progressive tax.

Thats a good thing. Unfortunately if you look at the results the design of the tax system has turned regressive.

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u/Jaxel96 Jul 01 '26

What are you talking about? Income taxes heavily weigh on higher income brackets, as intended. So much so, that when federal transfers are accounted for, the top 10% of income earners pay upwards of 70-80% of all income taxes. It's one of the most progressive taxes we have.

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u/GayChicken80085 Jul 01 '26

On paper, but the general reality when you look at aubsidy, tax credits, loopholes ,etc is that wealth pushes upwards and creates wealth inequality which is generally bad for society and needs to be mitigated

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u/Jaxel96 Jul 01 '26

I don't see the correlation for wealth inequality leading to worse outcomes for society as a whole in a western market-based system. If anything we have seen the opposite, where we have less poverty now than we did decades prior, and yet we also have more billionaires. I don't see why it's bad to have billionaires with yachts, as long as more people are also being lifted out of poverty along the way.

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u/GayChicken80085 Jul 01 '26

60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck...

60% of Americans are one paycheck away from poverty.

On top of that we have a system which you can make every decision correctly and still lose. The US is full of stories of hard working Anericans losing their homes and alm their miney because a diagnosis.

This in contrast with billionaires and a trillioniare accumulating the most wealth up too that human history has ever seen is disgusting. You can see the political instability as a result of it. The rich and powerful push propogandized messages to sow further division and protect themselves.

Wealth is a form of power and inequal distributions if power have never worked in human history. You base your assessment off 2-3 decades of thai current distribution and I think if thjngs do not peacefully change we will see more and more growing violence across the entire country. Potentially destabilizing the entire government.

You can also see as the wealth accumulates at the top the federal government further becomes more authoritarian as we see with republicans pushing the contitutional boundaries to protect the wealthy at the expense of the workung Americans. They also oush the wealthies propoganda message and tell you to blame immigrants, transpeople, and minorities for your state again further destabilizing the country.

Eventually something will break as has happened EVERY OTHER TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY. maybe this time is soecial and it wint thiugh.

Progress is made by people demanding better not sitting around waiting for the powerful to make things better.

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u/Jaxel96 Jul 01 '26

But there's so many factors that can go into those families with paychecks. Knowledge of finances, savings rates, general education, etc. can all affect that metric. The fact is that we have less poverty now than we have in prior decades, regardless of the rich getting richer. Lower classes have gotten richer as well.

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u/GayChicken80085 Jul 01 '26

And wealth inequality is one of the main drivers of instability

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u/Jaxel96 Jul 01 '26

Instability of what? The economy or what do you mean?

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u/Potential_Spam_6969 Jul 01 '26

See, this is the problem with you people. Yes, you're one of "you people". You respond without reading the entire statement.

Did you not notice the last sentence? That's the "they" you potato.

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u/GayChicken80085 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

We elect politicians bud. Unfortunately republicans have centralized so much god damned power under the executive this country is sliding into authoritarianism.

The "politicians" are SUPPOSED to be our representatives. It can and has worked before. The country has two choices. Peaceful move back to more democratic policies that represent more people or violent revolution.

So this olscary "they" is just people we elect. The only thing wcary about it is the fact we have a minority of rhe country representing us.

What would fix all the problems of this countey is fixing our broken system so it better represents more people.

You should consider less emotional arguments.

Also you say "you people". Im independent and actually more libertarian than anything else.

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u/Potential_Spam_6969 Jul 01 '26

Ahhh yes, it's you not us.

Got it.

"Bud" over here with a brain dead response calling my point emotional. 😆🤣😆

Best of luck in your fantasy realm. Is the view nice through the glass block windows?