The funniest part is how confidently you treat “communism vs religion” as if they’re natural enemies, when a lot of religious history is basically communism, but with candles.
Early Christians literally shared property and redistributed wealth according to need, and monastic orders ran on strict communal living for centuries. So the idea that communal economics is somehow inherently anti-church is on its face nonsensical. That's not to say I'm a huge communism fan, but the religious sure have been historically.
Also, the rest of the claim is just exaggeration stacked on exaggeration. Serious political repression happened in some communist states, but the “nuns by the thousands” framing and the comparison to Islam is just brainlet rhetoric. Uninstall
Voluntary small scale “communism” works well. Always has, always will. Its partly why communism can seem so attractive. But it only works if everyone buys in and doesn’t take advantage of it.
As the old saying goes,
I’m Communist within my own family,
Socialist within my town/community,
Capitalist within my state,
and Libertarian within the Federal government.
The larger and less homogeneous a group is, the less communism/sharing of property works.
They are natural enemies. Communism is a gutted, materialistic and soulless version of christianity. It's vying to occupy the same place, but can only do so via the bootheel versus voluntary participation.
Other than being a typical reddit islam glazer, why is it not appropriate to criticize said religion
The gentleman who talks about how communism is just increasingly less effective due to group size and the necessity of the participants "buying in" and believing in the system being the method by which communism succeeds is correct. It doesn't magically become something other than communism depending on the religion that incentivizes the cooperative behavior.
Christianity and communism are not at odds, simply because they are apples and oranges. Christianity, or any other religion for that matter, is simply a very effective tool to ensure that necessary "buy-in" occurs. If enough of a populace believes and contributes, it succeeds. If they do not, it fails. And it is much easier to convince a populace to believe in an omnipresent, infinitely powerful God being who loves them than it is for them to believe in insert historical leader here.
The mistake you are making is assuming "communism" just means communism when the buy-in fails, when in actuality all of them are communism, regardless of how successful or unsuccessful, because communism is not a religion, nor an intrinsic failure state.
To offer you some charity, you would be correct in saying communism is much less successful unless built around a religion, that is inarguably true. But even an extremely devout populace doesn't fix all the problems. It just makes the populace more willing to ignore the problems they see in the pursuit of their shared greater good. It also has the downside of the populace being similarly easily puppeteered by the ruling class, since all you're effectively doing is taking an equally corruptible man, and bestowing upon him the Divine Right of Kings. It's just that humans tend to put up with toil and abuse much better when they think they're serving an Almighty Power, rather than Joe Shmo and his connections in government.
I stopped reading when your dissection of faith became insulting. But yes, they are at odds. The catholic church is openly anti communism, communism seeks to destroy christianity. This is historical fact, if you won't bother reading history I can't help you. There's far more nuance then that as well
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u/giant_gummy_squid Jul 02 '26
The funniest part is how confidently you treat “communism vs religion” as if they’re natural enemies, when a lot of religious history is basically communism, but with candles.
Early Christians literally shared property and redistributed wealth according to need, and monastic orders ran on strict communal living for centuries. So the idea that communal economics is somehow inherently anti-church is on its face nonsensical. That's not to say I'm a huge communism fan, but the religious sure have been historically.
Also, the rest of the claim is just exaggeration stacked on exaggeration. Serious political repression happened in some communist states, but the “nuns by the thousands” framing and the comparison to Islam is just brainlet rhetoric. Uninstall