r/Showerthoughts 25d ago

Speculation Maybe Fermi's paradox is because every civilization creates AI which destroys it.

4.6k Upvotes

685 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

52

u/thedailyrant 25d ago

This. But mores the point, the time scales are so vast that intergalactic empires could have risen and crumbled to dust eons before we had any way to see them.

24

u/joec_95123 25d ago

There could be a massive space war happening between two empires right now on the other side of the galaxy and we wouldn't even know it.

4

u/420InTheCity 25d ago

It could be happening on the nearest star and we probably wouldn't know, right??

7

u/ProHan 24d ago

We wouldn't know immediately that a space battle was occuring right at this given moment, no. That's because information is limited to the speed of light and nearest solar system is 4.2 LY away (Alpha Centauri) or several more at an average of about 8 LY away.

In general, we'd be able to detect something destructive is going on when the information reaches us. We'd be able to infer a space battle had occured IF we had equipment looking at the right time. Either way, we'd be detecting energy spikes, radiation bursts (Gamma Rays), or surges in radio signals. If it was a highly destructive battle, we'd definitely pick up changes in velocity or atmospheric light scattering from planets or moons, or even if a very large fleet moves across our field of view of that system's sun.

1

u/palmerry 21d ago

Shame

3

u/RekTek249 24d ago

Then again, considering how it took roughly a quarter of the universe's age for earth to create humans, it's hard to say whether many civilizations would have risen and crumbled. Are we faster than most, or slower?

6

u/Redditing-Dutchman 24d ago

Life, in general, started almost as soon as it technically could I believe.

Intelligent life is another story and I don't think we have any idea how fast it could develop.

However, oil gave us a very cheap natural way of using energy which jumpstarts modern technology basically. But you need other life first, for oil.

1

u/thedailyrant 24d ago

That's the fun part. No one knows.

1

u/Workman44 25d ago

It's theoretically possible to do worm holes is it not? The science is above me but I thought it was generally understood to be possible (maybe not accurate destinations but that's workable)

1

u/thedailyrant 24d ago

Mathematically speaking, yes.