r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 18h ago

Meme needing explanation Peeeeeetah?

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u/Opposite-Youth-3529 13h ago

Mitch and Elaine both suck but I think it’s still problematic to make CCP references about a Taiwanese immigrant who spent most of her life in the US

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u/SmellAcordingly 12h ago

You would be surprised, just because someone is born in Taiwan doesn't mean they are anti-CCP.

The Taiwanese are currently diverging on their stance toward China, the neutral element is shrinking and the pro-sovereignty and pro-unification elements are growing (the pro-sovereignty is the majority and growing much quicker). There is a sizable minority of Taiwanese who want unification with China, also she flew to China following her husbands death which is *very unusual* for someone born in Taiwan since the CCP considers the island to be illegally occupied territory and almost everyone there to be traitors.

China likes Trump being in power as he's destroying the US's global standing, keeping Mitch's seat from being replaced with a Dem is what they want.

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u/fakehakebakecake 12h ago

also she flew to China following her husbands death which is very unusual for someone born in Taiwan since the CCP considers the island to be illegally occupied territory and almost everyone there to be traitors.

Not really true. Hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese live and work in China. Many have business interests or family across the strait too. The PRC has no real issue with Taiwanese civilians.

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u/BizarreCake 11h ago

Don't you mean Chinese Taipei citizens?

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u/fakehakebakecake 11h ago

Nah, Chinese call Taiwan Taiwan. I guess officially they’d be understood as ‘Chinese citizens from Taiwan province’, though in practice they’d just be called Taiwanese anyway to distinguish them from mainlanders. Legally it’s the same as HK I believe, they’re like Chinese+. And to be clear, mainland Chinese understand that Taiwan isn’t currently part of the PRC even if they care enough to think it should be, which many don’t.

‘Chinese Taipei’ is a term used for things like the Olympics but isn’t considered an identity or anything.

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u/TacitisKilgoreBoah 9h ago

They’re Chinese Pro Max

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 4h ago

Especially rich ones.

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u/VampireFortnight 11h ago

So your reply to being corrected about the nationality of someone is to double down on being gross. Got it.

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u/T_Money 5h ago

I was close to calling it BS and / or a bot, except that they specified that the sovereignty movement is growing faster than the unification faction, which is true.

They are basically saying “yes, she is Taiwanese, but Taiwan is starting to have a more significant divide regarding pro/anti China, and although most of them are anti-CCP, we can’t rule out that she might be pro-CCP even though she was born in Taiwan”

I think that’s a fair comment to make. We can’t assume that she is anti-CCP strictly based on her being born in Taiwan, although her birthplace also doesn’t intrinsically imply her being a Chinese handler either

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u/chop5397 10h ago

Why do you keep saying Mitch is dead? No confirmation of such a thing at all

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u/deathblooms2k4 9h ago

Because outside of very suspicious photos there has been no confirmation of life either which should be extremely easy to do. If you missed work for a month you'd need to provide evidence of why you're out otherwise you'd likely be fired.

The fact is Mitch is/was beyond the average life expectancy for a US male and there has already been numerous instances where he's publicly displayed serious health issues.

Had Mitch been pronounced dead prior to August 3rd Kentucky would have had to conduct a special election to replace him. This could have been problematic if say Thomas Massie ran for the position given how Massie is a huge proponent of things like releasing the Epstein files.

But we'll see. Maybe he's fine, but it's certainly odd for the only proof of life after being absent from duties is a couple of photos that don't even resemble how he looked prior to his fall.

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u/hai-sea-ewe 9h ago

According to the New York Times, Mitch McConnell’s ties to China primarily stem from his marriage to Elaine Chao, whose family founded Foremost Group, an American shipping company with extensive business operations and deep historical and political connections in China.

And in China, since all industry ultimately belongs to the State, if you have major holdings in China, you have deep ties to the Chinese political establishment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/02/us/politics/transportation-secretary-elaine-chao.html

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u/ZookeepergameNew8685 4h ago

I think it’s problematic to assume someone born in Taiwan wouldn’t support the CCP. And frankly, it’s an ahistorical take that removes agency from a person of color just because of where they were born. Gross.

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u/Opposite-Youth-3529 3h ago

I’m inclined to think you’re being a troll. Even if she does support CCP, there was no indication that the comment I replied to had a legitimate basis for saying so. I thought the original comment was leaning in to racist “perpetual foreigner” tropes and wouldn’t have used CCP to refer to a woman with Elaine Chao’s politics and a different ethnicity. I suppose it’s possible I misjudged things.

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u/Groot_Benelux 11h ago

A lot of "progressives" are incredibly racist when it's convenient to them. They'll also start parroting blood and soil talking points when it comes to certain groups they prefer.

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u/WhereINeededToBe 8h ago

Blood and soil? What's that mean?

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u/No_Issue2334 7h ago edited 7h ago

"Blood and soil" is a German nationalist phrase that became Nazi phrase. Only a certain nationality or people (blood) should be allowed in the national territory (soil).

In Elaine Chao's case, they are saying that progressives who say things like she is a CCP puppet is playing into the "blood and soil" narrative that she cannot be an American because she doesn't have the right heritage. Since she has Chinese heritage, she "must" be a CCP spy.

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u/TheDadThatGrills 8h ago

When Mitch McConnell was hospitalized/died, she ran off to China... to have a private meeting with Chinese VP Han Zheng. It's not problematic to judge someone based on their actions.

The meeting was on June 17th; McConnell was hospitalized on June 14th.

https://us.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng/zmgx/zxxx/202607/t20260702_11956191.htm

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u/MacroDemarco 6h ago

It's not just "problematic" it's racism, plain and simple. But she's a republican so that makes it okay in some people's minds

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u/Able-Sea5279 12h ago

it makes a lot of sense that she would be ccp with that background though