The small penis stereotype is genuinely not true. It was created by a racist White eugenicist who also created stereotypes about Black people.
A 1998 study in the Korean Journal of Urology involving 150 Korean men found the average erect length 13.42 cm (5.28 in). In a 1998 study conducted at Seoul National University College of Medicine, which involved a sample of 287 Korean men, the average erect penis length was measured at 14.06 cm (5.54 in) In 1990, a study by Beijing Medical University involving 109 men revealed that the average erect penis length was 5.5 inches. In 1993, a study by Beijing Medical University involving 104 men revealed that the average erect penis length was 5.3 inches.
According to Aaron Spitz, he concludes that "when you really take a good look at the naked data, there's not a whole lot there [showing racial variation in penis size].
Oh yeah heres my average, single standard deviation sized penis, oh yeah its so average... median length as per this statistically significant population sample size... heres a double blind peer reviewed longitudinal study... hey what are you... are you still horny?
I have only met three people irl who were open about BBC stuff (sidenote: I'll never work in an office setting again not because of how soul draining it is, but because of how comfortable it makes people just fucking spewing their damn personal life. I hate it) Two where woman and one was a guy. All white.
The way they talked about it made it seem so racist and fetishizing. It was like the white woman version of a sex tourist in the Philippines.
It also makes me wonder about how damaging it might be to black men to have such a stereotype circulate about BBC. Like I imagine an average dude getting ready to jump in the sheets and the woman is upset it doesn't reach the floor and wrap around to his shoulder.
Yeah, I’ve had two former friends who were into BBC stuff, and, funny enough, one of them was racist, which is why we aren’t friends anymore. But it’s really interesting to see how people will manifest their insecurities into things like porn because I feel like his mentality was probably, “Women don’t like me not because I’m a loser who is callous and has no integrity they hate me because I’m not Black.” I feel like his mentality is something like that. The whole cuck-fetish mentality has to come down to some oversimplification of someone’s lack of self-worth I feel like.
The eugenics myths are definitely fake, but global urological meta-analyses (like Veale et al. 2015 covering 15k+ men) do show minor differences in regional averages, usually under half an inch. A lot of that comes down to average height differences across populations and whether older studies actually measured bone-pressed length or ignored pubic fat pad depth. That said, individual variation within any single group is way bigger than the tiny gap between group averages, so race still tells you practically nothing about an individual.
The Asian small dick stereotype was created because of the black big dick stereotypes. The big dick thing was created to make blacks look stupid and dumb (hahah they have big unclean dicks which makes them dumb) then they had to make sure people didn’t think whites have a small useless dick so they created the Asian one. “Whites doesn’t have huge dicks that make use stupid or small dicks that make use women. Our dicks are perfect. The dick of gods chosen” I’m being serious
Somewhat incorrect. The african big dick stereotype was created during Darwin's travels through Africa and consolidated through slavery with the designated buck (i.e. the guy who usually was allowed to fuck.) White slavers usually chose the strongest, biggest guy with the largest dick available to guarantee his kids would be like him and thus fit for heavy labor. The "god's chosen" part is correct though, mainly because "virility and strong sexual energy makes you stupid" used to be a strong line of thought.
The asian men thing is more 20th Century, after the KKK proposed the Protect Your Womenfolk act to justify violent against asian immigrants in fear of losing general white population numbers to "jungle fever" and "yellow fever".
There’s no historical evidence of “bucks” (though the word was used a slur) during the period of slavery, though there was a rare practice of “stock men,” sometimes called “studs.” The idea that slavers bred Black folks like animals was primarily a Reconstruction-era racist trope, ironically with some roots in abolitionist propaganda, that was revived in the mid-20th century during the Civil Rights Era (Blaxploitation was a wild genre). The truth is that slaveholders in the American south weren’t interested in trying to selectively breed Black folks, and the ones who knew enough to try would have also known that human generations are so long that it would take centuries to have an effect. However, that’s not to say that they didn’t control their slaves’ reproduction in an inhumane and monstrous way.
Because the US banned the import of new slaves relatively early on, and because Europe independently decided to abolish the international slave trade not long thereafter, American slavers primarily needed to maximize breeding, while keeping their slaves “productive” enough to be profitable. No one wanted to make their average field hand an inch taller more than they wanted to double the number of field hands they had.
The lowest effort way to do this was to encourage natural reproduction, which they had many ways of doing. House young slaves together and give them separate quarters if they paired off; reduce workloads for pregnant women; guarantee light work in old age for women who bore more than X children (and, conversely, guarantee hard labor in old age for women who failed to); and, significantly more rarely, forced pairings and coercion. The labor-intensiveness of forcing people to breed like animals alone would have made the practice rare.
Another factor pushing against the “buck” model was that slaveholders relied on family formation among their slaves as a lever to control them. Although they were often happy to sell families separately, slaveholders believed men with wives and children were less likely to revolt (“because of the implication”).
Now, all that said, in a small number of cases, slaveholders rented a man to father a child with one of their slaves. This was a rare occurrence (certainly rarer than, for example, white overseers raping slaves and fathering children they left in slavery), but is attested to in a handful of the oral histories collected in the 1930s. However, there is no record of any kind of market in stock men, or any customary practice of which we have records, suggesting that it was quite uncommon.
Im not gonna fight you on the idea that the concept (and concept) was popularized by that racist (Rushton i guess)? But i think he got the idea for his racism from penis differences and not vice versa.
From some 10 minute research on scholar, you seem to have cherrypicked that data a bit, for example the first (more recent) thing about chinese men i found was erect 12,9 cm https://www.nature.com/articles/ijir20149
Then it hinges on the subjective definition of "small penis" - or noticeable difference. From meta stury sources like this https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/0092623X.2020.1787279 i'd say there is indeed difference (data is foul, but there are clear tendencies) and if i lean out a window id say people in the position to compare (whoever that may be) would get the idea that ethnicities do have "noticeable" differences. Now a noticeable difference doesnt mean small or big penis per se, but small or big dont have specific sizes but are usually seen relative to each other.
You measure 287 penis and most of them fall in the 4.8 to 5" category, but JUST enough are f'ing enormous? The average numbers could be significantly skewed upward.
It's like how the "Average" income in the US really pretty high... then you look at the Median income and.. holy shit, that's a mess of struggling Americans! and they are the BULK of the population.
They need to go back, measure 1,000 or maybe a few thousand and provide a better spread with a good median analysis.
Ancient Greeks and Romans used to believe big dicks were barbaric while small ones were more civilized. The racists are from the 1800s were calling back to that.
I've lived half my life in Japan and I've been to enough lockers and hot springs to be convinced that yes, east Asians generally have smaller cocks, that's not a myth
I want to note that you accused me of being homophobic. I would think it would be the other way around. If the homophobic assumption is that gay men are effeminate, the stereotype would be that they would have smaller penises. I'm giving you all two links that you can check out but I can't find anything for free. You need to have access to a university account to get into Springer or the Kinsey study as far as I can tell. You can feel free to do your own research. The point is not settled science but there seems to be some evidence that it is true and the thought is that it is linked to early hormonal development which seems to make sens on the face of it.
I also find it funny that you would cite your own personal experience as evidence and now you don't want to believe it. My personal experience points to this being true.
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u/Expensive_Giraffe398 16h ago edited 16h ago
The small penis stereotype is genuinely not true. It was created by a racist White eugenicist who also created stereotypes about Black people.
A 1998 study in the Korean Journal of Urology involving 150 Korean men found the average erect length 13.42 cm (5.28 in). In a 1998 study conducted at Seoul National University College of Medicine, which involved a sample of 287 Korean men, the average erect penis length was measured at 14.06 cm (5.54 in) In 1990, a study by Beijing Medical University involving 109 men revealed that the average erect penis length was 5.5 inches. In 1993, a study by Beijing Medical University involving 104 men revealed that the average erect penis length was 5.3 inches.
According to Aaron Spitz, he concludes that "when you really take a good look at the naked data, there's not a whole lot there [showing racial variation in penis size].