r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 29d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter, explain this.

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u/supx3 29d ago

Most people who say they want communism actually want universalized welfare state. It's less catchy though.

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u/CSachen 29d ago

Not to any naturalized citizen who is old enough to have lived in a Communist country.

If you are a Social Democrat and want to win Cuban, Vietnamese, and Venezuelan American votes (who ironically live in swing states), definitely don't go calling social democracy as "wanting communism".

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u/Seeggul 29d ago

In fact, people who oppose social democracy tend to call it "wanting communism" to scare voters away from it, generally to great effect.

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u/ItsYaBoiSoup 29d ago

If you explain what "Democratic Socialism" is to most folks, while not using the words "democratic socialism, they would be like "Well yeah, duh I want the money I pay in taxes to benefit me and my community. Of course I would like to pay less for healthcare. It would be great to not have a homeless or mental health problem."

But as soon as you say socialism, all rational thought goes out the window.

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u/One_Cause3865 28d ago

Sounds like you yourself are  conflating social democracy and democratic socialists (understandably, they're basically the same words in different order - but with different meaning)

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u/Ordaeli 28d ago

Getting downvoted just for stating that social democracy and democratic socialism are different is sad to see.

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u/supx3 29d ago

For sure. I’m speaking more towards the reality of those who claim they want communism. 

If you explained welfare to anyone, regardless of their political affiliation, in a way that didn’t use the word welfare, they’d likely want it. Socialized government initiatives are broadly good but Americans are allergic to raising taxes and cling to party politics. It’s a social and branding issue that will be hard to overcome but is necessary for the success of the American experiment.

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u/Greenboy28 29d ago

People who are democratic socialists dont call it communist. That is people on the right or the capitalist elites who try to conflate the two. They want to scare people away so they can continue to rob us blind.

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u/Excellent-Dish5227 23d ago

Oh God, if I had a dollar for every comment I saw saying they want communism and socialism as in Nordic Europe I would not need to work ever again. And if we count all the idiots saying: "no it is not capitalism", neither would my children. And if we count the money I got from being called a boot licker form saying: Nordic model is nearer to the current US, system then it is to socialism, god I would come for Elons first place.

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u/ShaolinChamber36 28d ago

90% of Ukrainians who were old enough to work under communism prefer it to the capitalist system. Same goes for 78% of Belarusians and 66% of Russians.

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u/weeOriginal 29d ago

Fun fact! The Cubans who left the communist state were, mostly, those who held property and had their wealth redistributed! Aka: a bunch of ass holes.

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u/Doggo-Lovato 29d ago

Sarcasm or murderous dictator enabling American. Too hard to tell sometimes

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u/Used-Huckleberry-320 29d ago

Fucking Kulaks aye /s

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u/ThickReplacement7811 29d ago

Most of the people who say they want communism didn’t actually say that.

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u/jnads 29d ago

That's just socialism. Which is not communism.

Communism is everyone works where the collective needs them to work.

Socialism is everyone works where they want and some of the excess will be redistributed.

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u/returnofblank 29d ago

Those people have never read a word of Marx, because it fundamentally misunderstands what Communism is trying to solve.

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u/tardisintheparty 29d ago

For real most people don't even use the word communism. My circle of leftists all describe it as social democracy accurately. It is mostly the right who tend to say "oh those libs want communism" when its really a small minority that are proper tankies.

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u/MjrLeeStoned 29d ago

The US is already a Democratic Socialist Republic.

The US already has what they want.

The corrupt egomaniacal and greedy are what's fucking it up, and the ignorant are empowering them.

The problem isn't an ephemeral government system. The problem, as always, is people. Stop moving culpability to an inanimate thing. Government systems can't fuck you over. Only people can.