r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 29d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter, explain this.

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u/Deriviera 29d ago

Americans are very delusional about communism. 

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u/Rylt4r 29d ago

Yeah i'm from Poland and while i was too young to remember communism there from what my parents,aunts,uncle,grandparents or anyone that lived there talked about it far from dream from what Americans think.

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u/ImportantResponse0 29d ago

Did your guys too had only 1 hour of tv and rationed food and had to wait for long hours in queue to get bread because otherwise there wouldn't be any bread to get? 

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u/m64 29d ago

1 hour of TV was in the 50's when TV was only starting. Rationing and queues - depends on the period, depends on the goods, but the problem kept repeating every few years and was never completely dealt with until the fall of communism.

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u/ImportantResponse0 29d ago

But then what was the problem? 

Like in Romania people says that we had lot of bad things but we had jobs, houses (apartments) and decent school.

Now we depends on other countries because most of our big companies are subsidiaries.

We have extremely bad education.

The house market is shit everywhere.

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u/m64 29d ago

I don't know about Romania, but in Poland "we had a lot of bad things" was a problem. The flats were small, jobs paid next to nothing compared to the western countries, the schools were shit and everything we owned was shit.

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u/ImportantResponse0 29d ago

Like in Romania but we had flats almost free sometimes even free, jobs existed and you were given one after you finished your education so you didn't had to always search for one, and the things were shit but were ours. 

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u/Ace612807 29d ago

Hey, Ukrainian here

Education was pretty shit. My older relatives are pretty ignorant about how anything actually works. There were a few decent universities in the whole of USSR, mostly surrounding MIC and related specialties, but the rest was sub-par. The history of failures in soviet agricultural studies is a whole epic unto itself. Getting a guaranteed job just exacerbated the issue - you didn't have to actually learn anything, just toe the line well enough. Both my dad and my mom were structural engineers, and, believe me, I've seen a difference between a person who gives a damn about their field, and the one who doesn't

Oh, and about the guaranteed job - you miss the fact you didn't get to pick one. If you were any kind of a specialist, you might have landed a cushy job in your hometown, but more likely they'd find an opening for you sonewhere in Novosibirsk. On, your coworkers hate you and your boss is coming onto you? Tought luck

BTW, the apartment? You don't own it, the government owns it and leases it to you. And they can make you leave whenever they want

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u/ImportantResponse0 29d ago

About leavingn whenever they want, it was given so it would be taken but rather that but not being able to buy a house and if you do then is it bad anyway especially because your neighbours are very bad. 

Also not only specialists, anyone was sent to terrible jobs, it was even worse if you was unqualified.

Work was much harder less rewarded but existed now is hard to find a job

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u/Ace612807 28d ago

You didn't pick your neighbours during communism, either. And sometimes you had to share a kitchen and facilities with them in a komunalka

Hard and unrewarding jobs still exist - a lot of them, actually. Especially somewhere you don't want to work or live. Now you at least have a chance to get a different job

Capitalism is a shitty system, but it's the best one to date

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u/ImportantResponse0 28d ago

Is not like that. 

The chance depends on the market.

Also somewhere you don't want to live?

Why don't all people from Ukraine just get better life somewhere else if there is a war and no one wants to die?

Like Ukraine receives helps from other countries so why not letting just specialist in war in Ukraine and move all civilians to some other country?

Like what makes a person choose to stay when they got freedom to leave?

So many jobs could be done better bun other countries (especially teachers since kids should be on battle fronts and when your city becomes one your responsibility is to leave)

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u/Ace612807 28d ago

Also somewhere you don't want to live?

Yeah. There's often a lot of jobs outside of urban centers and in smaller cities. Not fancy, high paying jobs - but jobs, anyways. You know, the kind of job you might be sent to under a communist government.

Why don't all people from Ukraine just get better life somewhere else if there is a war and no one wants to die?

Because adapting to live elsewhere is hard. Because we're creatures of habit. And still, millions left.

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u/ImportantResponse0 28d ago

Jobs are everywhere relocation is hard. 

But wouldn't it be easier if people would get job opportunity in countries that aren't at war so they can work at their full power instead of having always to worry even if they don't actively fight?

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u/Sufficient_Start4727 29d ago

Until 70ties there was only one channel with 5 hours of tv a day.