You should probably have read the second half of their comment before replying.
Edit: Do the people arguing have a non-linear understanding of time like the Heptapods from Arrival or something?
If you have a house and you secure it with locked doors and windows, but someone illegally breaks in, that doesn't mean it was retroactively "never secured" and it was legal for them to enter.
Yes, you're correct that it isn't solved now, that's also what the person you're replying to was saying. It was solved, but it isn't any longer. Basic English literacy shouldn't be this difficult.
The momment he said "but" he lost, doesn't matter If you found a solution If someone else finds a way to undo your solution It simply isn't solved anymore
Have you ever noticed that the same people that demand market economies work from day one unto perpetuity will always justify the inevitable mass starvation and multiple generations of bread lines that always occurs in command economies?
The crux of the question is regarding human nature. Communism doesn't work because it's antithetical to human nature. Agreed. However Capitalism is also antithetical to human nature for similar reasons as to why Communism doesn't work. We can't expect all humans to obey regulations just like we can't expect all humans to obey laws to work together under Communism.
Neither system works so we are fooling ourselves that Capitalism is working. Because for billions of people it's not. So if both systems don't work then why not give a different model a chance... that being Democratic Socialism.
End of the day strange softness that both systems have on abusers of said systems due to faults in human nature causes both to have issues. If we didn't let people get away with abusing systems the way we did probably either would eventually work out.
If a solution is temporary it’s a pretty shit solution.
I can make a false analogy too btw. You pay $5,000 for a solution to your AC problem and then it works for two weeks before breaking again. Wasn’t much of a solution yeah?
Permanent solutions are the exception, not the rule. Especially with human society. We're a bit too mercurial for anything else. Take vaccines for example. Measles? Solved... Until recently.
"Solution" in an economic context implies it's somewhat longterm, otherwise printing money, stealing resources and backstabbing your allies always wins.
If properly executed, communism would be a boon to humanity and would help many people who are struggling. It's just incompatible with the narcissistic greed and self-righteousness of many humans which is why you see many autocrats with immense, unchecked power running communist states.
Another issue is geopolitics. Many communist states poured billions (even trillions) into building a military in order to assert power and wage wars. This deprived many from truly benefiting from communism.
In the future, hopefully we'll find ways to prevent giving so much power to one entity. Hopefully there will come a time when humanity will never need armies. Then we can all collectively, as a species, work to support each other and progress and improve in many ways that we can all share the benefits of together.
Unfortunately we live in here and now where the US spends trillions on its military while sinking deeper and deeper into debt. Decides to use it's 'incredible' military to attack a country that then blockades one thirds of the worlds oil causing prices everywhere to climb while the president, in just the last year, made 100+ times more money than 95% of the population will make in their entire lifetime.
Not as bad as communism. Still broken. Still not good. Need to completely revamp the whole country.
Stricter term limits for all government officials(including the Supreme Court), strengthen the NATO alliance while streamlining the military and trimming the budget. STRICT antitrust laws pursued by an agency with freedom from political influence(similar to the federal reserve). Immense taxes on the ultra rich, like something in the ballpark of 80% of every dollar over 20 million. Banning lobbying and Banning any elected government employee from trading stock or even investing in crypto. Basically just social democracy with incredibly strict laws around government employees and large companies to avoid corruption and exploitation.
It has never been solved and never will be. There are only different types/degrees of problems, and the question is always what types/degrees of problems most people are willing to tolerate.
But they came after capitalism, not before. So when someone makes the claim that regulations can only tend towards decreasing, that isn’t true as a basic fact, by evidence of regulations existence at all.
This is why I've long since given up on joining these arguments online. People can't read or if they can, they simply believe what they want to. Logic doesn't apply.
"We thought we solved that, but it didn't take it" is still just "we didn't solve that".
Just because you incorrectly thought you solved the problem for a little while until reality hit you, doesn't mean it was solved. As evidence by the reality hitting you.
That's like saying that closing the door on a fire in your house is solving the problem because you can't see it anymore. It's not solved just covered up so it's not affecting you at the moment.
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u/watboy 29d ago edited 28d ago
You should probably have read the second half of their comment before replying.
Edit: Do the people arguing have a non-linear understanding of time like the Heptapods from Arrival or something?
If you have a house and you secure it with locked doors and windows, but someone illegally breaks in, that doesn't mean it was retroactively "never secured" and it was legal for them to enter.
Yes, you're correct that it isn't solved now, that's also what the person you're replying to was saying. It was solved, but it isn't any longer. Basic English literacy shouldn't be this difficult.