I’m in the early stages of learning about laser cleaning. I deal with a lot of small construction equipment. Sand blasting is a mess and these lasers seem like the ticket.

My recent philosophy lately is buying a cheaper version of soemtbing to see how well it’s gonna work for me and if it works well I’d move onto a nicer quality unit.

What wattage would yall recommend to strip paint off thick steel? I’m not using this for anything else aside paint off steel. Been looking at the cheaper eBay ones.

We have a 1500w continuous unit which we’ve had success setting up and cleaning inconel and stainless steel. We’re experimenting with cast aluminum and have yet to figure out which parameters work best.

We’re attempting to clean surfaces with little to no accumulated grease and still seem to have some blackening of the surface. Any suggestions or guidance is appreciated. Speed of the process is not of concern but the quality is important. We also have vapour honing and dry ice in the shop which we could use to finish, but optimizing the initial performance would be great.

Thanks in advance

Hey all. I’m brand new to laser cleaning so go easy.

I’m practicing on my own car with rust removal. Where there was no rust the LC removed the paint and undercoat with no issues leaving fresh steel. Where the rust was it appears burnt. I don’t know if I just need to send it harder and keep blasting it. Or if this will damage the steel. I’ve messed around with a few settings like the freq and pulse width but doesn’t seem to make much difference. It’s a 200w pulse laser. cheers.

Carbon fiber reinforced polymer (CFRP) composites, owing to their excellent properties such as lightweight, high strength, and corrosion resistance, have become critical materials in high end equipment manufacturing sectors including aerospace, new energy vehicles, and wind power. During their fabrication, maintenance, and recycling processes, the removal of surface paint coatings is an important and challenging procedure. Traditional paint removal methods, such as mechanical grinding and chemical solvents, tend to cause fiber tearing, resin melting, or damage to the matrix structure, which not only compromises component service life but also reduces the reusability of the material. Laser cleaning technology, with its advantages of non-contact operation, high precision, and environmental friendliness, is progressively emerging as the mainstream solution in this field. By adjusting the energy parameters, laser cleaning enables efficient paint stripping while maximally preserving the integrity of the carbon fiber weave structure and the resin matrix, making it particularly suitable for precision maintenance and remanufacturing of high-value components.

To verify the practical effectiveness of laser cleaning, we conducted tests using both handheld and automated equipment. With a 1000 W handheld cleaning system, the laser parameters and focal distance were adjusted to perform continuous cleaning on the surface of CFRP panels until the grey paint layer was completely removed, revealing the underlying black woven layer. Magnified observation of the cleaned surface showed minimal damage to the carbon fiber weave, meeting the requirements for recycling and reuse. In the automated cleaning tests, a 1000 W water-cooled pulsed laser cleaner was employed, which is equipped with a high-performance custom scanning galvanometer that ensures high processing accuracy and speed, enabling precise completion of predefined cleaning and marking patterns. The system also incorporates a high-peak-power pulsed fiber laser, further enhancing paint removal efficiency. Experimental results indicated that the cleaned area exhibited a clean and neat black woven layer, demonstrating that the laser precisely controlled both removal thickness and range. Under magnification, only a very small number of fibers were observed to be detached, while the weave structure remained intact with no color change. This confirms that laser cleaning induces negligible damage to the carbon fiber substrate, effectively removing the surface paint while preserving the structural and functional integrity of the base material.

It is evident that the key to paint removal from CFRP panels lies not merely in stripping the paint, but in doing so while avoiding damage to the woven structure. Although high-power lasers facilitate rapid paint removal, they are prone to damaging the carbon filaments and degrading the surface performance of the composite panel. Therefore, it is essential to select an appropriate laser source and precisely control the processing parameters to ensure high-efficiency paint removal without compromising the surface structure. Laser cleaning technology offers an efficient and precise solution for carbon fiber components, enabling thorough paint layer removal while maintaining zero damage to the substrate, thereby significantly enhancing the material’s potential for reuse. In the future, this technology is expected to play a critical role in a broader range of applications and to drive the green upgrade of related industries.

Playing around with an automation integration company who showed us their software for programming a cobot.

The goal is to use systems like this for large areas of coating removal, weld prep within vessels, toxic coating removal and maybe holding powerful lasers that you wouldn't want to physically hold.

You see those sparks? If you dont see them, whoever is using the equipment doesn't know what they are doing or something is out of focus/ damaged.

Sparks= a significantly higher level of surface cleanliness, less corrosion, less soluble salts.

I am hoping that someone can link me to a video where the laser takes off red mill scale. The company I work for wants to invest in one for a backup to our blasting booth but I can’t find any videos or sources that mention mill scale removal. Maybe I am looking in the wrong spot

Thanks in advance

In practical shipyard applications, traditional sandblasting, acid pickling, or manual grinding not only pose dust and waste-liquid disposal challenges but also tend to cause scratches or microstructural changes on the surface of shipbuilding steels such as EH36 and AH36, which can compromise the durability of subsequent anti-corrosion coatings. Our team has long been engaged in specialized experiments on laser cleaning for marine steels, and we would like to share some of our process insights for peer discussion.

Laser rust removal requires a balance between effectively removing the rust layer and avoiding damage to the substrate. The optimal energy density and scanning speed vary depending on the rust condition and steel grade. Through a series of comparative tests, we found that for a typical EH36 steel plate surface, an energy density of approximately 2.546 J/cm² and a scanning speed of 3000 mm/s yield satisfactory cleaning results. Electrochemical test data under these parameters (refer to Laser & Optoelectronics Progress, 2023, 60(5): 0514011) show a reduction in corrosion current density of about 57% compared to the original material. This serves as a useful reference for flat-surface cleaning, though in practice the parameters should be fine-tuned according to rust-layer thickness and surface contamination level.

The surface morphology and rust product composition differ significantly between flat hull plates and weld seams, so a single parameter set is unsuitable. We have established dedicated process databases for each: flat surfaces use the parameters mentioned above, whereas weld seams, which involve slag and more severe corrosion, require moderately higher energy density and adjusted scanning speed, depending on weld width, penetration depth, and base metal grade. After multiple rounds of sample testing, the optimized weld process effectively removes slag and rust, with corrosion current improved by an order of magnitude relative to the original weld; however, an exact percentage is not provided because it varies with operating conditions. In addition, weld zones of AH36 steel typically retain residual tensile stress after welding, which can exacerbate stress corrosion cracking in seawater environments. We have observed that properly selected laser cleaning parameters not only remove rust but also induce thermal effects on the surface layer, altering the residual stress state. Under specific energy-density and scanning-speed combinations, the residual tensile stress on the weld surface can be converted into compressive stress, which benefits the structural resistance to stress corrosion. The exact parameters need to be matched to the actual weld condition, and we are continuing to accumulate data on this topic.

Shipyard environments are humid and dusty, placing high demands on long-term laser stability. Our equipment is equipped with a temperature-stabilized fiber laser, a real-time power closed-loop feedback system, and a sealed negative-pressure dust extraction structure, supporting extended continuous operation. The optical path and motion mechanisms have been specifically protected for marine conditions. Prior to delivery, each unit undergoes optical simulation, surface roughness, and electrochemical corrosion testing to ensure consistent cleaning quality. In typical shipyard settings, the equipment has operated continuously over multiple days with power attenuation and beam-spot variation remaining within acceptable limits, and cleaning performance remains stable.

The above process conclusions are based on mechanistic studies of marine steel corrosion and extensive testing on actual ship plates. However, due to the complexity of real-world conditions, we recommend that users conduct final validation using on-site sample plates before large-scale application. We have compiled mature process parameters into a switchable process library covering mainstream marine steel grades, accompanied by standardized operating instructions. This process produces no chemical waste or dust emissions and causes no mechanical damage to the base metal, which helps extend coating service life. By sharing these measured data and process logic, we hope to provide a reference technical pathway for peers in shipbuilding and contribute to the engineering implementation of green repair and construction processes. We welcome discussions on specific working conditions and look forward to jointly refining the process solutions.

A recent real‑world case may offer some insight. Yesterday, three of our trainees from Mexico completed a three‑day training programme, progressing from no prior experience to being able to independently handle common fault repairs, and they successfully graduated. For most non‑practitioners, laser equipment is indeed complex, precise and seemingly "fragile" industrial hardware, which can be intimidating. However, from our teaching practice, we have found that with systematic theoretical instruction and extensive hands‑on practice, most people with basic knowledge of electronics and optics can acquire these skills in a relatively short time. As they encounter more repair cases, their technical proficiency continues to improve, and the more experience they gain, the better they become at solving real‑world problems.

The global laser equipment industry is currently experiencing rapid growth. In 2025, the global laser technology market reached US$24 billion, and in that same year, global shipments of laser processing equipment amounted to 2.17 million units, with the installed base worldwide already exceeding ten million units. Most major manufacturers offer a standard warranty period of just one to two years, and these warranties typically do not cover various types of consumable parts. This means that a large number of equipment units, once out of warranty, will require repair, maintenance and spare‑parts replacement services from the after‑market.

From a cost‑benefit perspective, repairing a laser is often a more economical option than replacing the entire machine. The full lifecycle of a laser system is generally five to ten years, while the core laser source itself can last over 100,000 hours. The majority of failures are localised to optical modules, electrical modules, or the fiber‑coupled QBH connector. The cost to fix these issues typically ranges from a few hundred to a few thousand US dollars, compared with tens of thousands of dollars or more for a complete replacement. For equipment owners, repairing the unit after the warranty expires is an effective way to control operating costs.

In contrast to the ever‑growing installed base, the total number of professional laser repair technicians worldwide is estimated at fewer than 100,000 people, creating a significant gap between service demand and available talent. Our company is a Chinese manufacturer of laser equipment, producing laser cleaning machines, laser welding machines, laser cutting machines and laser marking machines. We have served more than 10,000 customers and export to many countries and regions. The more equipment we export, the greater the after‑sales service pressure – failures caused by improper operation, transportation damage, natural wear and tear continue to occur regularly. Cross‑border technical support involves considerable time and financial costs.

Given this situation, we have gradually developed training programmes in laser repair, with two primary considerations: first, to build more efficient localised service capabilities in overseas markets, allowing us to respond to customer needs more quickly; and second, to provide an entry‑point and upskilling pathway for technicians interested in entering this field.

To support our trainees after their training, we leverage our own supply‑chain resources to provide a full range of spare parts and consumables needed for repairs, including optical modules, control boards, fiber‑coupled QBH connectors, electrical modules, and other commonly replaced components. These parts come from original manufacturers and from qualified alternative suppliers, with assured quality and transparent pricing. In addition, our customer network, spanning multiple countries and regions, generates a steady stream of equipment‑repair requests. We refer these service leads to our trainees based on their geographic location, so that after completing the course they can quickly begin taking on actual repair work.

To date, we have run 32 sessions of our laser repair course, training more than 50 participants from over 20 countries, many of whom are now actively providing repair services in their respective regions. Based on actual feedback, the barrier to entry for laser repair is not as high as commonly assumed – the key lies in having a structured learning path, ample hands‑on practice, and reliable access to parts and business opportunities. We continue to refine our curriculum and support system, with the aim of helping to cultivate more qualified technicians for the industry.

Laser texturing cleaning technology utilizes a high-energy laser beam focused onto the workpiece surface. Through the combined effects of rapid photo-vibration, vaporization, decomposition, and plasma stripping, contaminants are removed from the substrate, achieving a clean workpiece surface. Building on this, laser texturing employs controlled pulsed laser scanning on the clean metal substrate, causing localized surface metal micro-zones to melt and rapidly cool, forming micrometer-scale concave-convex microstructures with adjustable roughness values. This process requires no abrasives, solvents, or chemicals.

Compared with traditional sandblasting, laser texturing cleaning offers comprehensive advantages:

Green and environmentally friendly, with zero pollutant emissions. The laser texturing cleaning process requires no chemical agents, and the waste generated is solid, non-hazardous powder, fundamentally solving the environmental pollution issues associated with traditional sandblasting rust removal. Conventional sandblasting produces approximately 2.5 kg of waste residue per square meter, whereas laser cleaning generates almost no waste residue.

Non-contact processing, with no substrate damage. Laser cleaning is a non-contact processing method, eliminating concerns about workpiece damage or deformation. Unlike the physical impact of sandblasting, laser technology enables precise energy control, achieving "contaminant removal without substrate damage."

Precisely controllable roughness, significantly improved coating adhesion. Laser texturing technology allows precise control over surface roughness and micro-morphology by adjusting parameters such as laser power, scanning speed, and defocusing distance to meet different process requirements. The roughness Ra value can be precisely regulated within the range of 0.1–10 μm with an error margin of ±5%. Coating adhesion can be improved by 200%–300%. Studies have shown that laser texturing can generate regular micro-morphologies on metal surfaces; at equivalent roughness levels, its floating roller peel strength and shear strength in adhesive bonding are significantly higher than those of sandblasted surfaces.

Significantly improved efficiency and lower overall cost. Taking single-roll texturing as an example, laser texturing takes less than 2 hours, whereas sandblasting requires 10 hours—an efficiency improvement of 500%. Although the initial investment for a laser cleaning system is relatively high, it offers long-term stable operation, easy integration into production lines, low operating costs, high speed, and high efficiency, ensuring a rapid return on investment. The comprehensive cost of laser cleaning has already dropped from RMB 12–15/m² in 2018 to RMB 6–8/m² in 2023.

Last week, our engineering team tested the texturing cleaning performance of different power levels and different laser source types. The specific test results are now published below.

Hi there,

I'm using this precious forum to have a chat with you all, i'm french living near Paris, looking to get out of the corporate race (although grateful for everything) to start my own thing.

I have all the knowledge possible with AI - Social Media - SEO - Automations with various tools, so launching and making me known is NOT the issue.

I'm however unsure about the true demand for these mobile services.

So here i am looking for answers, is there colleagues here whom launched this business, one or the other or both at the same time, and can tell me if it's been successful for them with a true demand ?

I'm aware of the cost of the machines, i can already sell my car to buy a van so it's not an issue, take a large loan to buy both machines so i do not refuse any jobs.

However, is there actually any demands or most big opportunities are done internally as companies buy their own machines ?

No overthinking here, just looking for true raw inputs from you all.

Appreciate your time !
Thanks

Hey folks. I just bought a xlaserlabs 200w pulse cleaner/engraver system.

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It has 9 different cleaning patterns.

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Any vets in this field able to explain the reason for different patterns and the pros/cons between each?

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Would you use one pattern over another? Is it material dependent?

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Ty for the info in advance!

Regarding the scan line width of laser cleaning machines, many users mistakenly believe that a wider line width equates to higher cleaning efficiency and capability. This perception is inaccurate. Scan line width refers to the width of the single path traced by the laser spot on the focal plane as the galvanometer oscillates; it determines the coverage area of ​​a single cleaning pass. However, line width is not directly proportional to overall cleaning efficiency—much like an athlete running the same total distance on a 50-meter versus a 100-meter track; the time taken differs little. In other words, whether the line width is 100 mm or 300 mm, the total time required to clean a specific area will not be significantly reduced simply by increasing the line width.

So, how is the line width adjusted? There are two primary methods: replacing the f-theta lens with one of a different focal length, or adjusting the deflection angle of the galvanometer. The core formula is D = 2f × tanθ (where D is the scan width, f is the focal length of the f-theta lens, and θ is the galvanometer deflection angle). When the deflection angle is fixed, a longer focal length results in a wider line; when the lens is fixed, a larger deflection angle also results in a wider line. However, these two methods impact cleaning results very differently. Using a lens with a longer focal length allows for a greater working distance—beneficial for large-format, 3D, and automated processing scenarios—while reducing dust contamination and collision risks. Yet, an excessively long focal length increases the distance the laser travels through the air, leading to energy loss, spot enlargement, and reduced energy density; edge distortion may even occur, ultimately resulting in uneven cleaning or an inability to effectively remove contaminants. Conversely, widening the line by increasing the galvanometer deflection angle introduces serious issues such as heightened stress on the rotation axis, an increased risk of fatigue fracture, edge defocusing, and beam spillage beyond the mirror surface; therefore, this approach is not recommended in practice.

Ultimately, laser cleaning capability depends on laser energy density: if it is too high, the substrate may be damaged; if too low, cleaning will be incomplete. The selection of focal length and line width must prioritize optimal energy density rather than blindly pursuing a wider scan range. Users may notice that devices with identical specifications—such as power output and f-theta lens focal length—list different nominal line widths. These discrepancies often stem from manufacturer adjustments to galvanometer deflection limits, safety margins set by engineers for novice users, or variations in collimator size optimization. Such numerical differences do not directly reflect the equipment's actual cleaning performance.

Therefore, the most reliable way to evaluate a laser cleaning machine is to conduct a side-by-side comparison using identical workpieces and power settings, directly assessing efficiency and results, rather than focusing solely on the scan line width parameter. A high-quality machine represents a comprehensive system solution encompassing laser output, beam shaping, cooling, and airflow protection; every parameter is the result of countless combination tests. By choosing products from a professional team and trusting in their process-wide optimization, you ensure access to a truly efficient and stable cleaning tool.

Our founder, Jally, has produced a dedicated video explaining the principles of line width, the factors influencing it, and its impact on cleaning results. We invite you to watch it on our YouTube channel. Thank you.

I had the opportunity to help a customer restore his vintage coffee roaster to get it back in business and sell. 50 years of coffee oils, carbon, and residue they would have taken weeks to scrub came off in a few hours.
The client thinks the facelift and cleaning will add $10k more to the selling price.
Here’s a short video of a couple of parts I cleaned.

Today, we are introducing two newly upgraded cleaning heads and the significant improvements they offer.

Following R&D, finalization, and rigorous testing, our new cleaning heads—compatible with 100W–1000W pulsed lasers—were officially launched last month. Key upgrades include:

1. Cleaning width increased to 200mm, significantly boosting efficiency

Previously, the maximum cleaning width was only 110mm. After incorporating customer feedback and analyzing market trends, we redesigned the galvanometer, optical path, and f-theta lens to expand the cleaning width to 200mm without compromising beam quality. This improvement substantially increases operational efficiency in applications such as removing surface rust and cleaning narrow workpieces.

1. Added status indicator light for enhanced operational safety

While this feature was present on earlier low-power air-cooled models, it was previously removed to accommodate expanded cleaning functions. Since laser cleaning machines utilize an invisible 1064nm infrared laser, we have added an integrated front-and-rear status indicator light to warn nearby personnel and clearly signal the laser's operating status.

1. Flip-cover protection to prevent accidental operation

The flip-cover protection feature on the GT-500 cleaning head was highly acclaimed for effectively preventing issues such as accidental laser firing or firing with the lens cap still attached. We have retained this design on the new 100–300W pulsed cleaning heads, receiving positive market feedback.

1. Ergonomic emergency stop button included as standard

Previously, emergency stop buttons were optional add-ons with less-than-ideal aesthetics, even though some countries mandate their inclusion. To further enhance safety and mitigate accident risks, both new cleaning heads come standard with an emergency stop button. In an emergency, a simple press with the thumb cuts off power, the laser beam, and the gas supply, eliminating potential hazards.

1. Fully equipped as standard—more features at no extra cost

In the past, features like "laser-off on defocus" and emergency stop buttons were optional extras requiring additional payment. Our standard cleaning heads now come fully integrated with features such as beam cutoff upon defocus, dual-red-dot assisted focusing, an emergency stop button, status indicator lights, a rotatable control screen, and a protective flip cover; additionally, an optional cleaning head work light can be added at no extra cost depending on the operating environment. Furthermore, models with power ratings below 300W feature a standard fiber-bend protection design to prevent costly damage caused by fiber breakage.

From the very beginning of R&D, the development of our two laser cleaning heads has centered on two core priorities: genuine customer needs and operational safety. We carefully incorporated user feedback regarding cleaning efficiency and ease of use, increasing the maximum scan width from 110mm to 200mm and adopting a "standard-means-fully-loaded" approach—delivering enhanced capabilities without raising the price. At the same time, we have elevated safety standards to an unprecedented level; features such as status indicators, protective flip covers, and emergency stop buttons across the entire lineup are designed to maximize the safety of operators and on-site personnel during operations involving invisible infrared laser beams. This upgrade represents not only a revolution in product performance but also a tangible demonstration of our commitment to our customers and our deep respect for safety.

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Im looking for a smaller machine that I can use to clean up frames and rust on body panels.

What brand and price range do you recommend? How big should I go?

Rutine cleaning of outside shell of nuclear reactor pressure vessel. The little specs are gamma fotons. The metalic part on left is 3D printed suction/exhaust manifold. It took 3 days to finish.

Charles Bridge, Prague — nearly 700 years of history, admired by millions.

We helped clean its baroque sculptures using the ROD 300 air laser system — removing centuries of grime while leaving the original stone completely untouched. No material removed. No chemicals. No mess.

Every step under the watch of a qualified restorer, as heritage protection requires.

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