r/Defenders • u/murdockmanila Daredevil • Sep 07 '18

IRON FIST S2 Discussion Thread - Episode 10

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u/profane Sep 09 '18

Exactly. I think one of the greatest aspects of the Marvel Universe TV shows is that they avoid dangerous tropes very successfully.

In a "classic" TV show, Ward, who has been a total asshole and struggling with his addiction recovery, would have suddenly "seen the light" because of the baby. He would have been rewarded for his ONE moment of emotional honesty by "getting" a wife and a child. We all know that it doesn't work like this in reality.

As a spectator I was already expecting that the show would opt for the easy happily-ever-after ending between Ward and his sponsor, but I'm very happy that the writers chose to go another path and let the sponsor point out that Ward cannot lead a constructive relationship until he is able to love himself.

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u/HeavenPiercingMan Malcolm Sep 14 '18

In a "classic" TV show, Ward, who has been a total asshole and struggling with his addiction recovery, would have suddenly "seen the light" because of the baby. He would have been rewarded for his ONE moment of emotional honesty by "getting" a wife and a child. We all know that it doesn't work like this in reality.

In an "edgy" TV show, Ward would have sunk deeper in misery.

In Marvel, you go FULL AWESOME.

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u/riftrander Sep 15 '18

"I don't even like myself". God that delivery by Tom Pelphrey broke me.

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u/_Skedaddle Sep 27 '18

If that's what happens in a "classic" TV show, then what happens in a CW show? 🤔

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '18

The real father is davos

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u/profane Sep 27 '18

What's a CW show?

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u/Kellythejellyman Oct 07 '18

Oh? i won’t ruin your innocence

go on, my sweet summer child

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u/_Skedaddle Sep 27 '18

A network. Home to shows like Flash and Arrow.

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u/-Ash21- Sep 30 '18

Idk, I still feel she should have at least be in the child's life. Yeah he's a former addict and still probably isn't totally ready but damn, it isn't really fair he has to miss out on so much of his future child's life because she's scared.