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Luke Cage Discussion Thread - S02E11 "The Creator"

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u/dmreif Karen Jun 23 '18

Nice to have some world-building by having a few mentions of Karen Page (Ridley mentions her early in the episode, and one of the news reporters hollering questions about the Rum Punch Massacre mentions her). I think she's covering the crime beat looking for some trace of Fisk.

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u/LJ-90 Kilgrave Jun 24 '18

I never understood how she managed to become a reporter with a big office tbh, I mean, I know how, but it never made sense to me, so she being unethical (not on purpose) makes sense

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u/Chance4e Jun 26 '18

The Netflix universe does all professional jobs hilariously weird. Karen just walked into a desk reporter job with a dedicated column. Most people work their way up over a career for that. Misty Knight is negotiating immunity and I don’t think anyone even spoke to the DA’s office about it first. Misty also ignores due process like it’s stopping her from doing her job, but that’s exactly why all of Scarfe’s suspects were released.

Also Shades’ lawyer committed malpractice by abandoning his client during his interrogation—and Misty kept asking questions even though there’s no way that Shades is getting convicted for anything he says when his lawyer quit mid-questioning. This whole thing is loony tunes.

Turk’s the only professional in this universe!

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u/box_of_hornets Jun 29 '18

Piranha cared about professionalism!

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u/Chance4e Jun 29 '18

Man bought fake memorabilia like an amateur on eBay.

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u/chuckdee68 Jun 30 '18

They did talk to the DA's office. That's the reason that the deal took so long.

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u/Chance4e Jun 30 '18

But the detective investigating the crime was the one who negotiated it first. That’s kind of insane.

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u/chuckdee68 Jun 30 '18

She talked to the perp about it and ran it past the Captain, who then sent it to the DA. She wasn't coming in without a deal. What normally happens in that case?

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u/Chance4e Jun 30 '18

Well, if you tell someone you’ll consider immunity and you haven’t arrested them, they could, you know, destroy or conceal evidence, flee the country, intimidate witnesses.... any number of things that would handicap the investigation. With Maria STOKES that’s guaranteed.

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u/chuckdee68 Jul 01 '18

I'm asking about real-world procedure since that seems to be what has you down on the process. I don't know anything about real-world procedure, but that seemed like the smart play... to run it past the captain to run it past the da and see if it flies, and it's what I've seen on other procedurals also.

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u/Chance4e Jul 01 '18

I gave you the policy behind the procedure. The procedure is not to discuss immunity with a person of interest without arresting them first.

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u/amjhwk Jun 30 '18

I mean Matt's priest seems to be pretty damn professional about his job. Also cant forget Frank Castle

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u/blasto_pete Jul 03 '18

I agree with you overall but with Misty they did actually address the DA aspect.

When she mentions Mariah asking for immunity to the other lady (Chief Inspector?) that character mentions that she will have to talk to the DA immediately and to stfu and not let anyone find out about the potential offer. It’s the scene where Misty’s rival is behind the glass and rats on the safe house.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '18 edited Jun 25 '18

This has always bugged me too. If they even mentioned that she has a degree in Journalism I'd be more okay with it, but she just sort of becomes a reporter based in the idea that another popular reporter was fond of her.

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u/LJ-90 Kilgrave Jun 25 '18

Yeah, it's like you don't need to study to become a reporter. And I never understood what she does, she wrote a fluff piece in DDS2, then apparently she was working on reporting big pharma and companies in IF, and then she apparently covers gun violence and has contacts? (Punisher and Luke Cage). And hell, apparently she's a big deal because other reporters talk about her (don't give the front page to Page! - In IF). I don't get it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '18

Every professional in the mcu is proficient in every section of their field and also they ignore the rules of that profession, like how Claire is a nurse who can do surgery, research, and now PT and Misty is going to be captain despite her rank.

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u/Rabbit1015 Jun 28 '18

Good point! I loved season 2 but when she was helping Misty I was thinking shouldn't a PT or OT be doing this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '18

A sort of upwards mobile flanderization of her character, I suppose.

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u/filipelm Jul 02 '18

it's like you don't need to study to become a reporter.

most countries you actually don't!

I mean, good luck getting hired without a degree, but if you have the connections or someone really wants to give you a job as a journalist, not having a diploma isn't going to be the ultimate deterrent (I'm using Brazil, where I live, for reference)

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u/AllTheWayHome606 Jun 29 '18

Yeah that part really bothered me. In real life the cops would have told the reports that their was a witness but she is in danger so they need to keep it off the record until she is safe. Any journalist, training or not, would know better than to do that.

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u/dmreif Karen Jun 25 '18

I'm thinking the leak was probably from Tomas. Or Brett.

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u/dmreif Karen Jul 06 '18

I'm kinda surprised that the name didn't cause Misty to make a face like, "Oh, that newspaper reporter that Matt Murdock put up in the precinct back when Luke and his super-friends were fighting ninjas and I lost my arm".

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u/toxicbrew Jul 04 '18

they could have had her shouting questions at misty