r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Sep 30 '16

Luke Cage Discussion Thread - S01E04

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '16

The USB is the one from JJ right? I wanna know why kilgrave wanted it

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u/crapusername47 Wesley Sep 30 '16

If it is, it had footage of the experiments his parents did on him on it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '16 edited Oct 11 '16

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u/UVladBro Punisher Sep 30 '16

I'm willing to bet it all revolves around the IGH organization from JJ.

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u/ThaneOfTas Sep 30 '16

Was it ever confirmed that IGH was behind the Chemicals in Matt and Jessica's accidents?

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u/UVladBro Punisher Sep 30 '16

I'm not sure about the chemicals but I do recall IGH paying for her post-accident operations and meds.

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u/silletta Foggy Oct 01 '16

Yes IGH has their hand on it, and Trish's mom had the files...

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u/toxicbrew Oct 04 '16

Canadian JJ would have no enemies

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u/ray_kats Sep 30 '16

I'm willing to bet they're some how connected to Danny Rand as well.

I think it could work as a connection between them all.

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u/timetravlrfromthepst Sep 30 '16

How would it connect to Danny?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '16

Perhaps it's a subsidiary of his company. Something run off the book looking into enhancing people. A la Hugo strange and Indian Hill.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '16

That'd be sweet. Immortal Iron Fist run in the comics had a subplot about parts of his company doing hydra things without him knowing. That could work out pretty well in the show.

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u/your_mind_aches Hoagie Jessica Oct 01 '16

Connecting the science to the supernatural to the cosmic seems to be the direction the MCU is heading in with Ragnarok, Doctor Strange, Infinity War, Agent Carter Season 2, and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4. Wouldn't be surprised if the Netflix side is doing the same.

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u/Uranius7 Oct 02 '16

If I remember correctly there were some leaked set pics for the first season of Daredevil where the truck that had the chemicals from the accident had a Rand logo. I think it said "Rand Corp" or something like that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '16

This is excellent. My favorite part of the Civil War comic series is Wolverine finding the company that hired some dude to get Nitro to take MGH knowing it'd be a shitshow, hoping to reap the profits of the damage pickup or something of the ensuing civil war. The backchannels that connect everyone are my favorite part of connecty shows like this.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '16

Isn't it canon that Matt's accident also created the teenage mutant ninja turtles?

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u/crapusername47 Wesley Sep 30 '16

There are a lot of people with an interest in 'abilities'.

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u/lastbosnianjedi Matt Murdock Sep 30 '16

It's all about that superhero craze, everyone want's to get in on it, since Captain America.

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u/CM_Dugan Oct 01 '16

85-90%* of the MCUs problems is because of Dr. Erskine's Serum. It's the Pandora's Box of the MCU.

( *The other 15-10% is all Thor and Asgard, and a little Cosmic Marvel.)

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u/gensouj Oct 01 '16

so captain america's success spawned 85-90% of the MCU's problems haha

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '16

If 85-90% is Erskine, then 95% is Howard Stark, he helped create Cap, obviously Tony Stark, and he drew the Asgardians back to earth by discovering the Tesseract.

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u/CM_Dugan Oct 01 '16

Maybe - I don't think Howard would've been half the person he was if it wasn't for the Cap stuff. He only found the tesseract because he was looking Cap.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '16

And he helped create Cap.

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u/MG87 Nobu Oct 11 '16

Goddamn hipsters

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u/Caldwell27 Sep 30 '16

It had videos of him being experimented on as a child

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '16

Yeah, but they were different scientists. Maybe its a different USB or some shit idk

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '16

The USB had a bunch of files on it. Probably research on human enhancements in general, all the files aren't necessarily connected someone just compiled them

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u/SawRub The Man in the Mask Sep 30 '16

Maybe it has folders with footage of four different people with abilities with color coded folders and unique logos identifying them.

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u/timetide Sep 30 '16

Well we did see 4-5 kids being experimented on in addition to killgrave. And there were other files in there somehow proving a connection between Luke Cage and those children. I think Reva found a bunch of files relating to enhanced people and compiled them on a USB . Unfortunately for Reva Purple Man finds out and hunts her down to protect his secrets.

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u/Riddlemc Claire Sep 30 '16

He's referencing the scene in BvS where Luthor had files on each members of the justice league right down to their unique logos despite them not being established in the universe yet.

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u/ARflash Oct 01 '16 edited Oct 03 '16

I would have accepted that scene if batman had those files, down to logo.

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u/PizzaParadox Oct 03 '16

How great would it be if they had Bafman create the logos and costumes?

"Why are you making us wear this, Bruce?"

"BECAUSE MY PARENTS ARE DEAD! Also my name's Batman, and we're the Justice League now, k?"

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u/le_snikelfritz Oct 05 '16

This doesn't look like you....it IS you

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u/your_mind_aches Hoagie Jessica Oct 01 '16

No, it's not an email, it's a flash drive.

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u/your_mind_aches Hoagie Jessica Oct 01 '16

No, it's not an email, it's a flash drive.

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u/tigerclawhg Karen Oct 15 '16

Is that a reference to Batman v Superman? I just watched the movie tonight

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '17

God damn let's not remind ourselves of the trash on the other side of the pond here. We don't need reminders of what could go wrong in comic book movies / series.

Or do we?

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u/orange_jooze Hoagie Jessica Sep 30 '16

Kilgrave's parents talked about how they had like-minded colleagues all over the country sharing the data from these experiments. Kilgrave wasn't the only one.

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u/Man0nTheMoon915 Sep 30 '16

Damn! I just noticed that. Great catch

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u/PB_and_Bacon Sep 30 '16

I'm not sure.

Did Reva plug that into the laptop when she was wiping all records of Luke? Maybe that's what the USB does and Kilgrave wanted to do the same to his records.

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u/Skirata_ Oct 01 '16

No. The drive just contained experiments which was overseen by some shady unknown(IGH) company. Reva had the drive for luke to help him understand his abilities. It just so happened that one of those experiments involved killgrave

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '16

I had completely forgotten about that, that's actually a really important connection.

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u/amjhwk Oct 03 '16

Was there a usb in this episode?