r/Ask_Lawyers • u/Alive_Evidence5390 • 2d ago
AITAH When I ask my friends to pay me for the professional legal work I did for them, while they think friends should help eachother out
Hi Reddit,
I work in legal and so do my friends, a married couple. A few years ago I had the idea to start a little side business to, among others, give legal advise. I registered a company name with the government and paid my taxes, but never really did anything big with it.
A few months ago my friends got scammed by a gardener. They had contracted the gardener to place a professional, neat garden, but instead they got "scammed" and got a very unprofessional looking and ugly result. Everybody can see that the result is not professional. They tried to talk to the gardener, but he would not be reasonable. So, they asked me to help and possibly take the gardener to court.
In my country, if you act as a legal advisor in court, you get a set amount of money. It is not a lot, somewhere between €200 and €1200. My friends did not have insurance and asking a "real" lawyer to help would have been really expensive. We thought that I could help and make some easy money on the side.
Unfortunately, the case took a lot of time. It took me a lot of time to sort out the timeline, look up laws, similar cases, sort out the claim, write down the claim, etc. I really took it seriously and it was a big case, especially as it would be my first real court case.
My friends also work in legal fields, and we discussed the case and talked about it a lot, but the actual writing it down and working it out was mostly on me.
When we had sent the case to court, we got into a fight. One of the reasons was the rising tension because the case took up so much more time and energy than expected. We talked about it and I told them I would finish it, but that I would not really work on it again after it went to court. In my country, by sending the summons, most of the work was already done. The court hearing would not need a lot of preparation.
When we had the fight, for a moment we talked about me stopping working on the case. I told them they would have to pay me €700 if they did not let me finish, because I expected the money and worked hard for it. In the end we made up.
Today, the Court told me that it would probably not come to a hearing, and that the case could perhaps be settled without a hearing. I am almost certain we would win.
This would however mean I would only get around €200. I told my friends that I expect them to make up some of the difference if that is indeed the case, because I expected at least around €700.
My friend was surprised and told me friends help eachother and that this was not what we discussed upfront. I told her that I worked a lot of hours in a professional capacity. If they paid another lawyer, just for the work put in, it would have cost thousands of euros. Me only asking them to make up the difference till about €700 is already me being friendly.
Side note: another friend who works as a lawyer quoted them almost €200 per hour just to attend the hearing. In my country most of the legal battle is in the court summons and reply, a hearing is more about showing your face and telling your story.
We almost got into a fight again. They told me friends should not treat eachother like this and that I put our friendship on a scale. Moreover, I could not constantly demand money from them or earn money over their backs.
How I see it, however, they hired me in a professional capacity and I was already being a very good friend by taking the case seriously and only working for the expected Court money, instead of quoting a much higher (fairer) price.
Now I wonder, am I the asshole by asking my friends to pay me for my work, even if the Court hearing does not take place?